I would like to post this sentence to SNL. Could you PLEASE for once quit taking over my threads?<p>
The problem with SNL is that he sees only his view and does not think what others say is relevant. After the sex with the OW, this man was a angry man. The kids and I were all walking on eggshells in our home. WH screamed at the kids, called me many bad names & swore at me in front of the kids. There was a time I was taking our youngest son to a friends house for the weekend, friends mother new some of what was going on in our family, and she said get son out of the house and son can stay at their house for the weekend. Son told me on the way to his friends house if dad ever threw anything at you mom again, he was going to hurt his dad.<p>As you all have seen, SNL did not follow MB plan, Jennifer fired SNL. Gave SNL to Steve Harley, and the same thing there, Steve, said SNL will not follow the MB plan, so asked SNL what his plan was, and SNL couldn't give Steve a plan. Don't know when SNL will talk to Steve again.<p>All SNL wants is a divorce and nothing else. He doesn't see that we could of had a good marriage. We have the tools for a great marriage. ANd we are compatible in many wonderful ways. BUT SNL is totally thinking for himself and himself only. He is a selfish WS, and continues to think that way.<p>I want to tell you all that I went away for the weekend to spend time with a friend of mine that I went to nursing school with. She lives about 3 hours away. I went to her church this morning, and it was the most appropriate sermon. ON SIN!!! He talked about lies, calling others names, gambling, switching tags at stores, adultery, hitting people, cussing at people, hitting children, and more. He talked about how sins are all equal. The sins do have difference in degrees in a way. One sin he gave an example is that you went to the store and took something without paying for it. You come home and yes it is nice to have that little material item, but your heart is saying NO! If you feel guilty, and remorseful, then you ask God for forgiveness, ask God to help you not to do this again, ask God please next time I am in a store make my hands stay on what I will purchase with money only, and leave my hands pure. The only way God will forgive us is with true heart remorse and guilt. He talked about killing someone. The degree of sin in killing is that it effected many many people. So that is the difference in degree. The items stolen was about you and the store. The best thing he said was to take the item back, tell them you stoled it and pay for it, and tell them you are so sorry, and put forth the guilt and tell them you have asked for forgiveness, and also, talk to your minister, and say I have asked my minister for forgiveness. If need be, they can call and verify your true emotions with the minister. Now in the killing of a person. You have the one you killed, their family to deal with, you have the neighbors, co-workers, friends, 2nd relatives, society, police involved, jury, lawyers, judges, etc. This escalates into serious emotional pain among many many people. The co-workers could be the people you worked with or the one you killed - their co-workers. You have doubled the hurt, (your family and the other persons family, friends etc). I am not explaining this well. But the remorse and guilt need to be put forth to everyone involved. If not, God will not forgive you totally. God wants you to follow the path of remorse and guilt to all you have exposed the sin to. Otherwise you are being selective and true forgiveness of sin is not available. God is not selective, therefore you should not be selective. Deal with all that have been afflicted with this sin. The sinner is so SELFISH!!!!!<p>IN an affair, God is not going to say, okay I will forgive you (WS) for betrayel to your wife. But since you have not asked for forgiveness to your kids, your mother, your motherin-law, etc. Is God to forgive you completely? NO! You have got to ask God for forgiveness for EVERYONE! To let God know that you are sincere. He also, stated that a true remorseful person, will go to the one he hurt, and ask for forgiveness. Including kids, aunts, uncles, betrayed spouses friend, etc. This is part of the true meaning of the heart. So the first sin of stealing a little item from the store can be resolved with a few contacts. But the second sin of killing takes much more effort and time, and a truely remorseful person will make this effort. <p>I don't know if I made myself clear, but it was a very specific sermon on sin. Later I asked to talk to the assistant pastor, and he and I talked for about 1/2 hour in this little room. I told him I wanted to talk to him about a very hurtful sin. I explained about our marriage, my WH, the OW (her having 2nd sexual affair in her marriage, plus a possibility of a come on to a service man in her house). How the OW manipulated me! Talked about WH not showing remorse and guilt in a fashion that showed real concern. Told him how WH sees his affair on MB, he is now going to check out MB's, and how WH says affairs are natural to human marriages. WE talked, and he prayed with me, and told me some things to do. And wished I was closer to talk to him. I have his phone #, and maybe will talk on the phone with him. He gave me a big hug, and said I will pray for you and God will put his arms around you. I also, told him about the guy I met at physical therapy, and of course I heard that this is NO-GOOD!!! I told him the desire is so strong. He said yes, you are not getting want you need from your WH, and you are very vulnerable. I told him I understand, but I need love, caring, and hugs, and kisses! SNL doesn't want me, and doesn't do these things to me, so I had one hug and kiss on the head from Dave (guy from physical theraphy), and it felt so good. I want more!!! He said, I know. Pray, he said Pray! The drive home this afternoon (about 3 hours) by myself, I cried, talked to God, talked to Dave (don't have his phone # or anything, but pretended he was there and verified my want to be in his arms). Sounds crazy, but I had about 3 hours to kill. <p>Thanks for all your responses. I will dive more into this tomorrow. Had a long drive, need to unpack, and take a shower, tomorrow at 8a.m. is physical therapy. Bye for now. THINKER!<p>[ March 10, 2002: Message edited by: thinker ]</p>
