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#744680 02/14/03 04:24 PM
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OK, give me your 411. I need all the help I can on this custody and CS issue. I don't know your story. Thanks.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> NEWLY, thats IF you use COURT GUIDELINES,screw them, the courts are run by BARNEY the Dinasaur,their out dated and designed to be ADVERSAEIAL so lawyers can make a living,parents who CARE about their kids and want to each have a hand in raising their kids can make ANY agreement they chose and the court has to accept it, I'm in NJ, and i've found that judges NEVER give either party what they want, and thats so NEXT TIME theirs a problem you both would work it out INSTEAD of asking him to,the courts , and espically NJ, are a loser and thats THE LAST PLACE I would allow to say how the rest of MY LIFE WITH MY KIDS goes.AND, NJ HAS recognised SHARED CUSTODY with NO child support,check with FACE of NJ, or FRACK,NJ, they have DOCUMENTED cases and they can help with PROSE court stuff.DONT BELIEVE NJ doesnt allow it, DEMAND IT, its happening. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

#744681 02/15/03 02:44 PM
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I dont have shared custody, but i know of guys in FACE, of NJ that do, its hard to get it, but IF your wife and you can work out the issues it can be had.i married in 1984 and divorced in 1989, wife was a stay home mom and i worked 2 jobs, the woman was a tyrant and I almost didnt get married to begin with, I made bad decisions and here I am. When i left i had 2 kids, age 3-4, and it was the hardest thing i ever did, the courts were generally rotten to me, except for the divorce I did everything PRO SE, I cant afford lawyers, the one time I DId use one, I LOST a fool proof argument, so its a waste to do lawyers,I PAID support for years and got JERKED around by the probation dept all the time, EVERY TIME I need a loan I have to pay a month ahead on support because the state has a running LEIN on ALL support payors,IF your not paid AHEAD your behind,{ state logic, I guess} and you cant get loans untill you pay ahead and the state RELEASES the lein,But as I said the lein is RUNNING, as in NOT GONE untill EMANCIPATION.I now have ONE of my kids, he dont get along with mom,{ what a suprise}, I COULD HAVE had support ENDED, because she makes about what i make and we each have one kid now, because i didnt want to see another judge, she dogged me 6 more months because she didnt want the cash flow to stop, I finally had to threaten to file papers to cut support in half,{ she dont want me to know what she makes, so we aint seen a judge in years.} She VIOLATES EVERY Divorce and visitation order AT WILL and its a waste of time trying to get a judge to do anything about it,BUT DONT YOU try it, the whinning women in NJ get what ever they want from the DINASAURS called judges, their SO OUT OF TOUCH its pathetic. IF you and your wife agree to SHARED custody, draw papers and submit them to the court,MAKE SURE you follow the POR SE KIT to the letter OR they kick them back and you WAIT for another date, the courts USED to allow PRO Se litigants so leway, BUT NOW all they do is treat you like CRAP because your not PAYING a fellow lawyer to do your legal work. check this web site www. FaceNJ . org, they have meetings you can attend OR you can call support persons, JOIN, its worth the money. IF nothing else you get lots of pointers in dealing with the EX. Dont confuse SHARED custody with JOINT custody,SHARED MEANS you take the kids for a time, some do it weekly, some BY-weekly, some MONTHLY, what eve you work out,and you pay NO SUPPORT, you each maintain seperate homes in the same town and raise the kids during your parenting block. many kids like it, many WOMEN argue its not stable, but it is.Kids adapt, and they will.JOINT custody means ONE of you has the kids all the time, and the other is a PAYING VISITOR,IF you allow a court to decide 99% of the time DAD is the PAYING bad guy,mom collects the check, moves in a boyfriend, and your check becomes their FUN MONEY,MY KIDS used to tell me all the time about how MOM would wait by the mail box for her "spending cash".Dont make money an issue, or she will pull the plug on the whole idea, EQUAL PARENTING TIME HAS to be your ONLY motivation in wanting SHARED CUSTODY. ITS HARd raising kids by your self, be prepared. good luck.


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