Estes, those pictures are beautiful!!<p>Jo, well, glad to hear I wasn't off the mark on this one. The good news is that in my case, this whole OC thing hit my H really hard. He can't blame me for this one!!! He could try and blame OW (like your H did), but he's not yet, so... <p>Know what's ironic? Way in the beginning when my H was waffling, he said to me: "I can't believe that I was entirely responsible for my affair. I could never forgive myself." And I just screamed AAAHHHH!!! inside my head...<p>But I can see now that after all this, he is going to that place where he can never forgive himself (responsibility)... Now let's just hope the IC and MC can help him crawl out of it.<p>At least I know it's what has to happen, so I am hopeful. I wish we would have all known this years ago. If you had known the same things you do now, I hope you would have never continued on in the relationship until your H fessed up, took responsibility, and did what needed to happen. Am I right? I know it is what I am faced with now, if my H doesn't... I hate to think about it, but I know I have to seperate from him cuz' otherwise he will just continue to bring me down and do this to himself time and time again. They should give a class or something...<p>What does ONS mean, BTW? That woman sounds like a real bit*h if you ask me. (I think your xH and her deserve each other, they can make each others lives miserable, LOL). <p>I am absolutely amazed that you and OW #1 became friends. You have to be one forgiving and amazing woman to do that Jo. <p>Not sure if I really get a warm fuzzy from OW #1 saying she wouldn't have done it "if she knew you beforehand".. So what does that mean? She can pick and choose when she will act moral depending on if she knows the person being hurt? Yikes...<p>HbH