CM, you said:

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">. I made no promise to her before God or anyone else. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And I say:

Deuteronomy 5:21

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Neither shall you covet your neighbor's wife; and you sal not desire your neighbor's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox or his [censored], or anything that is your neighbor's.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Also ... spoken at every Christian wedding:

What God has joined together let no man put asunder.

I think it is very clear that God holds you accountable for what YOU did to your xMM's wife. (God addresses the WS in the 7th commandment and I conceed the WS is equally responsible to all person's affected by an affair)

Earlier in your post you stated you attended a Christian church and believed in God. How can you say you are not responsible (in part) for the damage to his marriage?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">What I am saying is that he is soley responsible for the damage to his M, as I am for the damage in mine. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Eagerly awaiting your reply,
Z.

sorry this subject has now been changed to children and hamsters..

Matthew 7:1
Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I fully hope the Lord will judge me with the anger I judged my married ow with.
You see, I feel ,even IF you do wrong and are heartfully sorry for it, the Lord will make you suffer either here on earth or in the after life.

When you take vows in front of God and don't honor them, there is hell to pay, no matter what.

So I say, bring on the equalizer!!!!!!!

I have followed HIS commandments to the best of my human ability.

HE knows this.

Funny how ow become so moral when it comes to, AFTER conceiving a child who wasn't to be conceived in such hidious circumstances, suddenly become "moral" when it comes to the pregnancy and birth of such child.

Causing grief and confusion to all but her and her child until child gets older.

As I said before, this site is for BS who cry and try to save their marriage.

Not ow who profess to "know" MM as a wife does (even though they think so).

Had I come here a year and a half ago ,I'd have fled with the knowledge of ow maybe answering me.

Just couldn't respond!

Ow w/child need to go bytch at gloryb,,,,another fatal mistake I made long ago not realizing it was a site for bitter ow who finally "knew" MM would sneak or leave when finding out of pending pregnancy.

Sheese,,,It'll never end.....

For those who think m/ow help them, please seek out gloryb.com and see if they give a [censored].....they don't as soon as WE give em a trigger......I found out the hard way dec 2000....

Gemini,

Do you have any hampsters in your house? Kids? Love? Happiness....?

No? Then this thread is not for you.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

rotfl

My daughter now wants a gerbil.. I dont know a cat and two rodents in the house, what do you think cm.. think thats two much..

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Found the hamster!!!!!!!!!!!!! </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That's good!!!!!! How did you do it? Did you try the brick/block method? It always worked for us.
If you get a gerbil make sure it's in a glass cage....they chew their way out of the plastic hamster thing-a-mijig....

Twiisty

My kids want a hamster, gerbil, snake, lizard - all to which I have been stalling to comply or coming up with excuses such as we have a cat, we have a dog. There is no room in your room.

oh a glass cage well they only have plastic ones for hamsters, I will use that excuse and get them to share <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Thank you for sharing.

snakes, my husband is afraid of snakes he wont even allow them on tv, haha we all get a kick out of it. but for him it is very serious.

we tried the bucket, but older son came home and younger son was crying so he helped his brother search and there the little rodent was asleep in his shoe.
om called tonight and wanted to give kids a puppy... husband laughed and said sure at your house they can visit it. haha he is afraid I iwll be stuck with the care of puppy. thank goodness he said no.

<small>[ August 20, 2002, 10:54 PM: Message edited by: mom of five ]</small>

hamster, kids, cat, husband are asleep and I must send husband off to airport in the morning, he will be gone a week <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> But the bright side less laundry. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> His mama can do his this week.
good night all
sweet dreams

Thanks for all the pet tips and other tips as always I appreciate it.

Hey m05--glad you found the fur ball! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

I know the subject has changed but I'm a latecomer and just wanted to say to CM that I was mainly referring to breaking God's laws and addressing our spiritual crime against God, punishable by God... That's all.

The bottom line is God's law for a Christian person. Not arguing religion, it's just one simple truth of Christianity. To take it a step further, the Blood of Jesus covers all sin, therefore now we are no longer facing God's judgment, we have forgiveness available. But you can't get forgiveness if you don't think you broke a vow in the first place, right?

And for the record, I probably have been inconsistent on these boards I won't deny that. If you were making a general accusation against me, I would have to say that you are probably right! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Some days I get plenty of sleep and I feel more upbeat and some days I feel moody and irritable. I'm sure that reflects in everyone's style of posting, not just mine.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> om called tonight and wanted to give kids a puppy... husband laughed and said sure at your house they can visit it. haha he is afraid I iwll be stuck with the care of puppy. thank goodness he said no. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I got suckered into another puppy the other day and Mr."T" even broke down and said, "ok"...we have a pug puppy that will be a year old in Dec. and two days ago got a free puppy, courtesy of the wal-mart parking lot where these sad little boys were looking for homes for NINE!!!! puppies!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> anyways....our little fella is all black with white stockings on his feet with some dalmation black spots on the white stockings and a perfect star (in the shape of patrick of spongebob squarepants fame!) on his chest...he is truly a sight to behold...we named him OREO....

I guess with Bubba getting older and almost 18 months old....a new baby was in order in the house.....of the canine persuasion....I guess I should have gotten a cat?!?!?!?!?!?! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Anyways....caring for another puppy with a half-grown pup and two babies keep me hopping...glad your animal family is doing well and safe at home...

Have a good one!
Twiisty

No rodents--not now, not ever, no! The boys can cry until the cows come home, but no rodents. Heck! I'd have a cow (man) before I'd have a rodent.

We live 4 houses down from a riding stable. I personally would love a zebra and a giraffe.

Our dog of 18 years died December, 2000, three months after D-day. Just too sad and disappointed in Mr. J to go on living. ;0 OK, I can blame Mr. J for a lot but probably not the death of our 18-year-old dog.

We currently have two frogs in an aquarium. Mr. J loves aquarium stuff, but we are in agreeement on rodents.

Here's the history: we had one frog, a tiny little tree frog and the boys found a tiny garter snake, about the size of a strand of spaghetti. Mr. J put it in the aquarium with the frog figuring the snake couldn't hurt the frog. Next day, frog was dead and hanging out of snake's mouth. Mr. Snake only got up to the frog's knee.

We found another frog and snakey boy got an aquarium of his own. Found one more frog. So two frogs and a snake--two aquariums. The boys found earth worms to feed to the snake. He bit off more than he could chew and was dead the next morning.

The allergist said no cats for me especially after I was in the hospital last month for severe asthma.

We are seriously considering two greyhounds. I never want a single dog again. I think that they are too social and are too lonely w/out some companionship during the day. Our dog spent years on Prozac due to obsessive-compulsive behavior that the vet thinks was brought on by spending too much time alone.

MJ

oh my gosh thats terrible, poor frog,

I dont want a puppy, it is like having another baby to take care of, I am glad husband said no.

I am happy with my cat of 12 years, he requires only that we feed him and let him sit on us, and he is happy.
no muss no fuss.
I am not able to touch the hamster, looks like a rat to me, of course all rodents look like rats to me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

WE have fish, but do they count ?

twisty
so do you take every animal that has a sad kid attached to it!? be carefull, you will have to quit going to wal mart <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

I'll take the animal over the sad kids anyday....they say three of anything is a collection...soooooo I don't need no more kids or animals...(we have two dogs and a cat and that's it...or so we say......)

At one time we had three dogs, four cats, two gerbils (had to keep them in a glass aquarium with rodent lid) and two hermit crabs and a dumb betta fish named Archie that Mr. "T" rescued from a burglar alarm in an abandoned house....

MOst of the animals died and the others ran away...so we are back to square one with the three we got....guess I better build an ark for hurricane season!!!

Have a good one!
Twiisty

at this point I'd gladly take a puppy..
I'm finding that living in the country with two little girls bringing in toads, salamanders and HUGE bugs to be quite EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW...

I think I'm missing the pigeons and sewer rats that Seattle offered....LOL

I like the puppy idea...in theory. But, since Little Man is not big enough to "clean up" after the pup, and has shown a penchant for dog food, the idea is on hold for awhile. Can you imagine? Boy oh boy. If you could see me, Ms. Fu Fu, picking up doggie droppings in the backyard, rubber gloves to the elbows, hip boots, and a rag over my nose/mouth, you would laugh your a$$ off. No, no, no. Not gonna happen.

Fish anyone?

sewer rats yuck

Hello,
Well, we have two dogs and a cat. aNd that is enough for me! Too much hair all over! But now H is asking for fish. Well, when I met him he had a fish tank that he never cleaned the water was green. The fish some how survived.
I have enough to take care of. He says he would take care of them. I know I will end up taking care of them. He said that about the dogs and I am taking care of them.

Dawn

Isnt that the way it always goes.. I think there is an unwritten law somewhere.