I am a little confused, is this all through some chat line off the internet ?

Mo5,

No, its a local telephone chatline.

You know.. one of those "Meet people in your area" Thingies....

Basically, a Singles Bar with a phone... BYOB....
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

I tried to warn H years ago that these people were desperate and basically pathetic.
They don't feel comfortable going out to meet people face to face... so they "meet" on the phone...

Sad, pathetic way to find "true love." <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
IMHO

Stacia,
Not sure if this will really help you or not, but maybe. Here are two websites that have a way to look up info. You put in the telephone number that you have and you can get back a name and address. Sometimes it is old or unlisted, but it might help. Also you can go to the local library and look in the city directory (reference section). Look up the telephone number and you'll get a name. Look up the name and you'll get an address. Look up the address and you'll get the names of everyone who lives in the house and where they work and whether or not they own/rent, etc. This book can give a ton of info- or it might have nothing. Good luck. Aimee

http://ypng.infospace.com/info.loc411/ypv3/reverse.htm?

http://www.theultimates.com/white/

Amiee,
Thanks for the links... I have tried EVERYTHING that I know how to do but I can't locate any info on the # that I have.

Yes, Twiisty... the QOI is losing her touch... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

<small>[ August 27, 2002, 03:50 PM: Message edited by: Stacia_Lee ]</small>

I never heard of such a thing.. But thanks for clearing it up.

Sounds like you should somehow make it where that chat line can not be called from your house and they can not call you, is that possible ?

Amiee,

Hey, I wanted to say another THANK YOU!

I got some info yesterday and I used your links to do more research.
I now have WannaBe's address and actually looked at an aerial veiw of her house.

So, should the need arise, we can file a Restraining Order on her.

Thanks again!!!

Holy crap, this is insane Stacia. These 2 women are freaking nuts. Weriod is an understatement.

Why wait for ow to fold? Why not pursue the allegations by reporting them to the police yourself? Find out the woman's lastname who is calling you, maybe your H can tell you what it is? If she's calling him over business circuits, they will log every call placed inbound. You could find her number that way if you don't know it. I recall your saying that H knows her number, with that, try a reverse directory lookup for her last name. In any case, get her name, and get her involved in the reporting process. Build your case of child abuse. Do not wait for ow to fold. If she is as big a #itch as she seems, she will never give in and will just keep on putting her children at
risk.
If your theroy of sabatage is true, hell, use it. Who cares if she plays the victim, you get what you want, and Lilbit is saved from her dysfunctional clutches.

CM

<small>[ August 28, 2002, 09:31 AM: Message edited by: CMiranda ]</small>

Geeze Louise Stacia,
Wadda mess!

Another point to ponder. I think it's great that you told her "leave me H alone" and made it clear that you want you marriage. The statement could have little or no meaning unless it's backed up by your H. Now i'm not suggesting that he call her and tell her to go away. But he may be have to be forthright and ugly if she calls him. I know that lots of men in these situations feel like avoiding being "mean" is the best way. I know that my xMM kept making these statements that were supposed to be breakups but his intensions were never really clear.

Additionally, if this woman is this desperate and needy this gets into addiction. So you "telling" her might not be enough.

Recently my xMM reappeared. I had a conversation where I was 100% clear to him that I no longer wanted ANYTHING to do with him. I even called his w to make sure that EVERYONE understood that I was out. He's still calling. These situaitons are usually sticky as hell!

Good luck to you and God bless.

I think I can guess at the reason that OW would have Wannabee tell you that she was giving OM a BJ in front of her son.

I think that was a lie and that, perhaps, she was hoping that you would go off the deep end and report it to authorities....and she would have her alibi all ready so she could charge you with making a false report, harassment, or whatever.

As for the recorded messages, I think they were from when the A was ongoing and she just wants you to think your H is cheating again....doing anything she can to break you two up. She probably thinks that by using Wannabee as the "new OW", your H wouldn't blame her if you left him and would turn back to her.

You know her mindset, Stacia...don't let her get to you. Her tricks will get more and more outrageous until she either cracks completely up or gives up. Somehow, I think she will crack up. Be very careful of yourself, Stacia. I sense that this woman could become very dangerous as she becomes more desperate.

Listen to Lady Clueless...she presented things I didn't even think of, but they make a lot of sense and under the circumstances, highly probable.

Heed the Hare, Alice.

Catnip =^^=

Hello Dear Friends,

Well, yesterday’s counseling session went well. I was able to really talk and get my thoughts out; where when talking with H, my mistakes are constantly brought out to make me shut up.

Prior to counseling, I had a meltdown.
I had received another phone call… this time from someone I knew.
Saying, “Check out this number” another chatline… “And put in this code.”
I called the chatline and put in the code… “Mr. Lee” H’s VOICE! I was livid!
I then used his “normal” code to access the mailbox… it worked! No question that this was H….
Thankfully there were no messages in this box at all. New, old or deleted (yep, they keep the deleted ones available…)
After I had done this, I got another call from the same person. “And if he tells you that he hasn’t been in that box in a long time.. he accessed it at XX:XX today!!!” Duh… that was ME!

I came unglued. I confronted H with this “latest development” and told him that I am so sick and tired of people trying to stir up shyte. I am tired of them using the people that I know against me.
I screamed, cried, hyperventilated and finally passed out for a few moments. When I came to, I was being cradled in H’s arms.

He proceeded to tell me that he has had that “mailbox” for 2 yrs, started around the time of the A, and had not accessed it or even called that chatline in a very long time.
He, again, affirmed his love for me and only me. He said that he is so sick of people stirring up things and getting me upset.
He also told me that I needed to not let these lies and “old dead horse” information get to me.
He said that he would delete that box last night, which I confess I checked this morning and he had.

My meltdown lasted about an hour or so… I don’t know if I needed it or what…but I felt like there was a breakthrough of sorts.

I am feeling lousy today. My head hurts, my eyes hurt… my stomach is churning something fierce.
This is also the 2-week wait…
I am going tomorrow for my progesterone test for this cycle…
I am afraid that if there was even a chance of conception, all this stress has squashed any possible progress…

Thanks for your support, my friends, more than you know.

Sometimes a major meltdown shocks and scares the observer so much, it snaps them out of themselves and they have to take a long hard look at what's going on...and at themselves.

It is effective (but not recommended) when someone who is controlled looses it.

Now that is out of the way, you can concentrate on yourself and prepare the nest. Go do some yoga to destress or something relaxing. Block this stuff out of your head because it is stupid stuff from stupid people/troublemakers. Stop giving them the power to upset you. They are getting off on your misery and doubt.

Breath deep....exhale, repeat.

Catnip =^^=