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OK...I peeked.

It ain't pretty.

In all my life I have never ever seen a more bitter, hateful group of women than are on the TOW board. Their venom far, far surpasses anything I have ever seen on MB in all my years here.

My advice is not to go over there for any reason even though I know they are constantly here, completely obsessed with us.

Leave them to heaven and to their stunning justifications or it will make you crazy reading the endless excuses.

I see a couple of our members post over there as well and have private PM's going back and forth. If you are playing both sides of the fence and commiserating with them, some members might think their forum is more to your taste than ours.

I posted once last year and they were nice but I carefully measured everything I said. Since I have absolutely nothing in common with any of them, there is no reason to poke a stick in the beehive. It's a nasty deal and I feel compelled to shower after I've been there. Visiting their site will just get you worked up needlessly. Besides, if any of us go over there snooping around, we are as pathetic as they are with their constant monitoring of our board.

Catnip =^^=

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didnt you mention something about word cop a day or so ago <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

I have been hearing all the lovely stuff about chuds new baby, which I have enjoyed hearing about, we didnt fill up the board with it, but a pm instead, i dont see the big deal, and thank you but I am quite comfortable posting any where I want. I am prety darn outspoken if I wanted to hide I would have chosen another name and not mention any thing, turns out, my life is the same whether I am here or there.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

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I have not read all her post and dont plan to but I did read a couple and I dont think it is the same person.

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<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> I am speechless

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>I see a couple of our members post over there as well and have private PM's going back and forth. If you are playing both sides of the fence and commiserating with them, some members might think their forum is more to your taste than ours.

Good heavens. I assume you're referring to the posts I made notifying people of PMs or emails (some people who yes, are regulars here but have posted at both places). Yes, guilty as charged ... I made some admittedly space-wasting posts to let them know they had replies waiting. Since I made a few of these space-wasting posts, I'm guessing those are the first ones you saw since that was even my subject line(s). We're still women ... I would think we were still allowed to talk. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> There's been emailing with some of them too. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> Seriously, you're going to make me think that the American and Russian citizens weren't allowed to communicate during the cold war either. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> The "commiserating" (at least in the chats I've been having with some of the ladies) is about the Chinese adoption hubby and I are doing. Some of these women have seen pictures of the baby (and I've seen some of their little cuties too ... I didn't know that was bad <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> ). Some I've exchanged recipes with. Some I've exchanged various pictures with. Some have even seen the "k" referenced in my username here. And with one I've even discovered a surprising, common link in our geographic history. I didn't realize any of that was so bad ... especially for off-board(s) correspondence. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> I chat with a number of women from other boards too ... both BW, OW, and just plain out W.

friendofk/chud (OW/WS/BW no, W yes, OC yes)

Oh yeah, and for the record, I agree ... I think the behavior of Gemini's OW is horrible. Yes, I do think that the adults involved should at least try to act like adults. I don't like to see *anyone* acting so irrationally that children end up getting neglected. Which is probably why I also made that post a couple weeks ago to lilymarie's thread, applauding both her and another BW.

Oh yeah, and I have no idea who cmiranda is. Hand on the Bible (yes, I'm religious, Lutheran).

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Hmmmm...! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

Who you chat with is your business, but the agreement for posting here is that we familiarize ourselves with the MB material so we can provide MB solutions for MBers.

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I have been reading here/"familiarizing" (on other forums too, particularly Emotional Needs). I even got up the guts to post to one of the regulars in the recovery section, trying to help him understand a problem his wife was having (a problem that was not part of the affair, by the way). That was even months ago (if I recall correctly). Of *course* I think it's a good thing when any couple is meeting each other's emotional needs and working in agreement with each other. However, they both have to be willing to do that.

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ok lets give it a rest

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Is it too late to tell you what happened last night?

I just got home from work so I'm sorry I didn't tell you all sooner.

S, DIL, granddaughter, Grandmother of DIL and Grandma's 2 sisters were at our churches Italian Fest.

Ow her H and the children were there too and as usual made their presence known.

While standing in front of the churchs' brick front sidewalk, where parishoners can buy bricks inscribed with their names, Ow and her family stood within ear shot range of our S and his family.

While reading a brick with my H's grandparents name, OW's H said "OUR LAST NAME" in a snide tone.

S said back "I don't see "her H's last name " OR " OW'S maiden name", so why don't you just leave and go to your own church?" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

Ow's H walked up and tossed the red wine in S's face, on his shirt and shorts...followed by french fries, followed by a chest butt, and they all quickly ran off to their car and left.

MEANWHILE...
S was yelling at them as police came up, not knowing what the problem was they hancuffed S and then asked questions.

During the incident DIL's Grandmothers glasses were knocked from her face.

Police let S go and told him to make a report which he did.

S called our lawyer today and together with my H have restraining orders being put into place.

Ow's H will be sent a letter to his home (we're not sure where he's staying in the few months he's been home) telling him he will have to pay for S's clothes and a few other things.

As for OW she too will be on the restraining order and the next time she calls H's cell (business cell) for any reason she will be arrested. Also all of the warnings that are typical of such orders.

Their D is named as she made comments to my son while wheeling oc to the car with her parents and siblings. Also we printed e-mail she sent son (OW sent it and we all know it) from last incident.

We are ok today but emotions for us all have been high!

It literally made H sick. The stress is way too much at times.

After all this time emotions of ow and her family are also pretty high. If they would just ignore us as we try to do to them it would all be so much better. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

I told H I can't wait for that plane to leave Thursday! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Now MO5 I wanted to say thanks for the <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> because it seemingly never ends.

And you wonder what would be happening WITH contact? We shudder to think.....

So marieluvsrich, you think maybe the ow are one in the same? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

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well to be sure that is an aweful scene I guess we should thank our lucky stars we dont have things like that happen. I teach my children to have and show respect for om and his wife, although they dont like her or her daughter[not very nice] but they always say hello, and and thank you when needed, answer questions when asked, in fact they hug the girls when ever they see them, My sons are a little more reserved. gotta run seems the hurricane doesnt want us to enjoy time off. will have to do the fun stuff next week, must go get supplies. and take care of animals.

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Newsflash!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> Guess who registered on TOW today. Yes, of course, CMiranda as MirandaC, claiming she is not Bee. TOW allows the same person to post with multiple screen names, and how convenient of her to show up at TOW.

How stupid does she think people are? Of course, mo5 posts to her there telling her how she knew she was not Bee. How convenient for both. Sorry, but I also question mo5's motives for being here since she posts on TOW about all the bitter BS' here.

Oh and CMiranda a/k/a Bee on TOW why do both of your stories parallel each other. Amazing coincidence and why does Bee know so much about all of the MB posters?

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Too funny...

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Enlightenment,

I'm sure that this is all very fascinating, but I would suggest that you let this drop. I could just as easily question your "motives"---you've had all of three posts here, and none of them have been about MarriageBuilding. For all I know, you could be a TOW poster attempting to start a board war in a surreptitious manner.

If you don't have MB specific material to post, or maritial issues that you'd like to address---then you really shouldn't be posting.

Gem,

Ugh. That's just incredible...

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Some people really need to get a life! I mean, come ON!!!???? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> You just gotta laugh!

Some people have nothing else better to do, I guess? Playing both ends from the middle? WHY? For attention? For acceptance? What? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> Oh well, doesn't matter much to me, just makes you kind of wonder what's the point? Are they bored???

friendofk, Sure it takes two to make a marriage, but it only takes one to screw things up really bad... If one is working on no LBs and filling ENs, then half the battle is won already! Keep the faith! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

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You know what I think? Now I could be wrong, but I think Enlightenment got irritated over on TOW! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> So Enlightenment did a drive-by to give insight but MBers already sorta know what's up...

And yes, I agree, xOW following gemini to their new church and making a scene? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

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K I am highly insulted that you could call me a TOW poster. I am not a TOW poster. I have read over there and here for quite a while. While I do have my own marital issues, the reason I read this particular child/pregnancy board is because my brother was involved with a MW, who accidently (yeah right) got pregnant. She rode him and rode him for money until ultimately one day he committed suicide. SO PLEASE DONT QUESTION MY INTENTIONS AND DONT EVER INFER THAT I AM OR HAVE EVER BEEN AN OW. Just the thought of that makes me sick to my stomach.

I was not aware that many of you suspected some of your members were here under false pretenses. I felt very bad for the many suffering BS' here who have to deal with an OC and just wanted to alert them that they were being made a fools out of.

K, I think your opinions would be better directed towards others who are imposters and not me.

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enlightenment, are you kidding <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> , Go find a good book to read or something.

Question all you want, It means nothing, I dont mind telling you what I think, been doing it for a couple of years now...

ok end of thread for me.
gem I am sorry you had such an event ,at church none the less.

There is no accounting for people and what they will do.
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I cant even imagine, when we all meet accidently in public the kids hug them and we make small talk, share news of daughter, men talk fishing, and we move on. seems so simple wonder why others cant do that.

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I am highly insulted that you could call me a TOW poster.
I didn't read any post which called you a TOW poster.

DONT EVER INFER THAT I AM OR HAVE EVER BEEN AN OW.
That was never implied by anyone, YOU may have infered it. And just because one would post over there, does not mean one is an op.

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