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I have not heard from WS in a month now. Now that OC is here that's all he cares about. He is happy so I guess that makes everything OK. Just destroy someone else's life and you too can be happy and have whatever you want!

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I keep hoping H will finally see through the fog. Sometimes I feel like the hate I feel keeps me going. OW gets all the glory because she was able to have a baby. Why does God allow people to suffer so? Now that OC is here it's suppose to excuse everything? See how everyhting turned out, we get to have a child and we're so happy so that makes the fact that we had an A completely OK and justified. What a crock of s***!

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okay Cyn,

I am trying to understand you. Your H has not been in contact at all with you for the past month now? Why is that? Have you tried to contact him at all? Did he just decide to leave you and go with her? I do not mean to ask so many questions, but am a little confused here.

What is the reason that you are hanging on? ( not to sound cruel just a question) Has he ever said that he wanted to remain married to you? What is the deal refresh my memory if you don't mind..

ps - I know it hurts to talk about it, but it may help you in the long run.

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H is in jail for a DWI and will be for a long time. The last time I heard from him he told me he still loved me and wanted to still keep in touch but he was worried about OW because of the baby. Everything was fine until OW went to visit him by herself one day. His parents went with her because they didn't trust her, and were concerned about their grandchild. After that one visit I haven't heard from him since. I know she is using the child. Trust me this woman is a mean, vindictive gutter slut. WS won't believe it because of the fog. I'm not the only one he hasn't had contact with either. She is in control right now.

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Hi Cyn,

I just have this feeling that OW will not remain in control long. Pray to God. Put it in God's hands. I do not beleive God will let her rule long. Will pray for you. My other woman just got out of the hospital for pnemonia I think. She called my house. I gave my husband the phone. She is playing the damsel in distress. Nobody cares about her whether she lives or dies. My husband played into it acting all concerned about her. It just made me feel sick a little. Why can't she just get a life.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Cyn1018:
<strong> H is in jail for a DWI and will be for a long time. The last time I heard from him he told me he still loved me and wanted to still keep in touch but he was worried about OW because of the baby. Everything was fine until OW went to visit him by herself one day. His parents went with her because they didn't trust her, and were concerned about their grandchild. After that one visit I haven't heard from him since. I know she is using the child. Trust me this woman is a mean, vindictive gutter slut. WS won't believe it because of the fog. I'm not the only one he hasn't had contact with either. She is in control right now. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">okay, I know my answer is going to sound cold and harsh... dont mean to...i am just a lurker and I have been following your situatin here. Others here have voiced concern for you as you really dont seem to be making much progress in dealing with your pain and anger ( which you are certainly entitled to..no doubt about that).

But WHY keep focusing on the OW?? This is not a "contest" if so what did she "win"? If she is married do you think now that she has had another mans baby that her home is a happy one? I doubt her husband is amused so her life can' all be a bed of roses. You can be angry at her all you want, but 50% of the anger and blame goes to your husband..who had a CHOICE in his actions and was not forced to do what he did. is this about winning and control over H? You really need to ask yourself that and if the answer is yes, IMHO YOU have won because OW may distract this A$$H*LE long enough to give YOU some time to really evaluate what you want in life and get out of this situation if that is whats best.

Anyway have you and H discussed counseling? Have you asked him what his plans are? You can't lead a camel to drink remember that.. so if he doesnt want to try to reconcile, you cannot force him so it may not be worth your energy to try anymore. I know many WS here work hard to repair their marriages, but it takes WORK on the side of BS AND WS to be successful. You have to BOTH want it to work... and forcing the WS if he doesnt want to do something is only going to push him away further.

You bring up the issue of "control" ... so if she is using their child to manipulate your husband... then do you think that is going to be a happy union? So if he "goes" to her then perhaps he is only doing what he feels is best for his child and probably wont be very happy in the long run. Their situation sounds like a recipe for disaster... esp if there are or were drug users together at some point.

What if......he's gonna get out of jail, try to live out some blissful fantasy with her, discover life is a living hell and then he will come crawling back to you begging you for forgiveness... would you take him back then if he were to do that to you? I hope you would tell him to kiss you were the sun don't shine is he does something so disrespectful to you.


You also keep bringing up the fact you lost your child and you feel your husband didnt care about your baby and only cares about his child with the other woman. let me just say, that for many men, the baby is not a reality to them while the woman is pregnant... they cant feel the baby kick inside them and the instant bond it brings about that mother's have. it is not until the baby is born into the world that they begin to bond with the child..in MOST cases. So in my opinion, in the case of a misscarriage, the loss may not affect the father in the same way as the mother because the baby was not yet a concrete reality to them... Just think.. if it were a reality then when OW was pregnant I doubt he would have stood by and allowed OW to abuse drugs while she was pregnant. But who knows.

Another thing, you keep referring to OC as some "[censored]'s baby" even asking the chances of it's survival if born preterm and hoping it would die... dont forget this is also your husband's baby.... if you work things out with him... how are you going to deal with the OC in your life? regardless of how you feel about OW, your husband will most likely want contact with his child as demonstrated by his actions so far. While I agree its okay to resent the idea that a child has resulted from his EMR, your hatred on an innocent child is misplaced. Your anger needs to be directed at the ones who betrayed you...not at an innocent child.

On another noe, and I dont mean to pry.. is there any reason you cannot ever have a child of your own? I somehow got the impression... but was not sure. Would you still want to have a baby with your husband even though he is in jail for the next 2 years? Anyway, if you dont get back with H... is there a reason you cannot have ababy in the future with someone else? With someone who loves you and treatsyou with respect?

YOUR LIFE IS NOT OVER... perhaps it is just beginning....maybe God is tellingyou NOW IS YOUR CHANCE to get away from this person who has hurt you so deeply and maybe there is someone out there more worthy of your love... or maybe you need to take time to love yourself.

And I hate to be blunt, but look, he is gone for the next 2 years... do you want to sit and wait (possibly in vain) for him knowing there is a possibility that he may choose to be with the mother of his child? ( which seeing as she is married as well that seems like another mess all together).

If he hasnt contacted you in a month that is his choice... I doubt anyone can force him NOT to contact you anymore than you can tell him not to contact OW... so stop blaming other people for HIS decisions.

Take this time to live your life and begin anew instead of dwelling in this pain that your husband has created... he's not going anywhere... you know where to find him ...

i wish you the best of luck, i know how much it hurts to be in love with someone that is simply no good for you, and from my POV, this man has NOTHING to offer you but pain and heartache... especially if they have no desire to make any changes or to work on the relationship maybe its just time to let go? How many days in a row have you cried over what your husband has done to you? How can someone who claims to love you be so indifferent of your pain, of pain that HE caused you?

he is not worthy of your love.


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Why do I focus on OW, well now because she has this baby she has the upper hand. WS and I were doing fine until OW went to visit H by herself. Within 2 days he all of a sudden didn't want anything to do with me. I am not the only person he has cut off contact with. OW is in control! You do not know just how manipulative she is. She would stop at nothing to get revenge on WS if anything happened. She is in a position right now to do or say anything. All she would have to do is go to the prison board about anything (she has the resources) and H's life would be a living hell. Faking abuse, anything to get her way would not be beneath her. Trust me, I know she is using OC and believe me anything she can to be in control. She has threatened him before. OC will always be a reminder of the A and pain I have suffered because of it. I am 46 yrs. and my chances for a child are almost nonexistent at this point. H and I were trying to have a child when OW came along. She knew this. The year and a half with OW was probably my last chance to be a mother. That's another reason I hate her. And like I said, no one cared, I mean no one cared about me or my baby. But when OW was pregnant everyone thought it was so damn wonderful. Now that OC is here it somehow is supposed be alright that OW and H had an affair!

What do I do with the baby clothes in my closet?

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Cyn,

I am so sorry. I am sure OW will show her true colors. I do not think OW and your husband will last.

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If I learned any thing with my own experience it was: If your marriage was ok, then an affair would have never happened, an affair takes place when there is problems ,just that unfortunatley we wernt aware enough to relize it intil it was either almost too late or was too late.

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So does that mean that when H and OW have problems then they will cheat on each other as well? No one has a perfect M. Why get M'd in the first place then when it's so easy to run to someone else when the going gets tough? The punishment doesn't fit the crime. WS cheats and has OC and it's somehow justified. I've sure had to pay a high price for not being perfect.

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Hi Cyn,

I am sure OW will cheat on your husband. I will not be surprised if your husband cheats on her. I hope he wakes up and comes back to you.

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No, no marriage is perfect. Xow in my case dosn't and never will have the upperhand & She doesn't have God in her life.That and i figured out want needs i wasn't meeting with my h and i now make sure i meet those and all his needs. I thank God my H had the brains to see what she really was/is. OW will eventually show her true colors, and your H will be in for a very rude awaking.
My H's affair wasn't too easy for him, alot of it was my fault he kept telling me what was wrong and stupid me wouldn't listen, If I had listened the A might have never happend. I wasn't meeting alot of this emotional and other needs.
If your H is stupid enough not to see The WONERFUL WOMAN YOU ARE , He deserves to lose you!!!
Because you most definately deserve to be HAPPY!!

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The sad part is OW claims to be a Christian. I've prayed so much and sometimes feel God doesn't care. I know I shouldn't focus on OW but it's so hard. Now that she has OC everyone thinks she's so wonderful. Doesn't matter that my life is destroyed. OC makes it all OK now. I guess we should let all the rapists, murders, and child molesters out of jail because they have children. Yup, sure excuses everything doesn't it.

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Cyn....even though I'm still hurt by what the OW put me through, I keep telling myself that she'll reap what she sows. Try to keep that in mind, ok?

And everyone thinks the OW is so wonderful???? Also remember, pride cometh before a fall.

I'm still praying for you!!

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No matter what ever happens someday it will "never" make up for any of this. Memory of OW will always be there and so will OC. What's the point. They will always have a bond because of the baby. I felt we had a bond because of our love. What a joke!

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