Well lets see, if you get a MM who makes alot of money, then well look at your little pay check coming in and you get to raise it anytime you get mad at him, for going back to his wife. Don't get me wrong I think a man should pay for a child that he has, but there are women out there w/ two or three by different men, and not married to, just collecting the money and making XMM life and family put up with crap. Just think sit on the couch (or bed when some other mm shows up) eating your bon bons collecting your payment for the booty calls, that you knew would land you a check for the next 18-21 years. Yep mommy and daddy must be proud of them.
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" /> Sunny D

Kimmy--

You guys moved away right and that why you don't have the same house now??? H is a cop now is that right?

Don't know about db's mommy or if her daddy's around, but H's mummy is definitely proud of what her baby boy accomplished!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Okay--you can say SKANK--hello I think all these OW who sleep with married men are users and money grubbers.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You know what, tho. She's so freaking skanky, but I've met her - she's very pretty - she could BE so much more. The very smallish part of me that is logical towards where she's concerned really and truly wishes she's get her sh*t together, quit relying on men to "save" her and her kids and QUIT TRYING FOR AN EASY WAY OUT OF HER LIFESTYLE. I mean, I KNOW if she got out there and got a good job, her self esteem would go up, and if that happened, perhaps she'd refuse to settle anymore. KWIM? That little part of me wishes that the HUMANESS in her would strive for more....not everyone has potential...those that do, should use it, imo. I just hate the human waste...It just....makes me ache for the potential lost. And that's one of the reasons I get so frickin pissed at her. Man!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Okay if I were to sleep with MM (i wouldn't)then I would make sure to protect myself and that he was protecting himself--you can't tell me that any of these OW were trying to stop from getting pregnant.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think my tart was really and truly trying to drive ME out of the picture because she KNEW Nio'd not leave me. Her words, her actions, everything points to the desperation she felt towards not letting him go. I posted before how he'd tried to break it off with her before she got pg, but she slit her wrists in front of him (and she WAS hospitalized for it - she'll forever have scars on her arms - ick). She's an emotional extortionist, imo.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> ROTFLMAOTID </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Rolling on the floor laughing my [censored] off till I die - surely not something that morbid? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> I give. What?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">it is nice to be having fun like this today--we are not all gloom and doom and there gets to be a point where you just gotta laugh because life is too short.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Oh heck! I told Genia - I tell that girl a lot, huh? But I told her that I knew I needed help when I lost my sense of humor. If I ever stop being a smarta$$, you ladies better get me some help quick....that's my life thread. I can be caustic, I can be smartalecky, and I can laugh about this now - the alternitive to those things sucks like a Hoover, and I don't ever want to go to that place again. Sure, I get down - specially because I can't have a 'rita anymore because of this [censored] <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> , but by golly I was handed more than my share of lemons - see tho, God has given me the recipe for some pretty sweet lemonade.

- Kimmy

Kimmy,

Girl u r 2 much! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

I can c why u feel the u do about the "tart" she has serious mental problems. I hope the Lord touches her 2, especially since she has little ones who need her. Plus as u said she should want more for herself, hopefully 1 day she will.

I try to pray for db 2, she makes it hard tho, at the rate she is going if she doesn't get her other "baby's daddy"/the jailbird, back she will be pg. for some other man who wonders in her life, she actually thinks if she gives a man a baby he will marry her. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> Poor child.

Kimmy you got the initials thing--you are good!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> You guys moved away right and that why you don't have the same house now??? H is a cop now is that right?
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yep. History here, his mom was the original owner of the bars. Dh was a deputy. He took time off a week before she passed so he could run the bars for her. Once she passed, the siblings signed over their rights to the bars to dh - that's how we got them. Well, when OW turned up pg, he all of a sudden want to move to the coast so "we can be closer to MY family." Um. Okay by me - my job in San Antonio was sucking balloons at the time anyway. We sell our house, move, then BAM! D-day.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Don't know about db's mommy or if her daddy's around, but H's mummy is definitely proud of what her baby boy accomplished!
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">How effed up is that? OW's mom was an OW herself, that's why her mom never said anything to her about it (that was the tart told me). Ick, ick, ick.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Kimmy you got the initials thing--you are good!
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And the background music is playing:

"We are the champions,
My friends....
And we'll keep on fighting
Till the end..."

Hehehe. Picture me standing up from my desk, in my best Rocky pose, "Yeah! I'm DA QUEEN!"

- Kimmy

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">How effed up is that? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Oh Kimmy,

Don't get me started on the MIL, short version she is the biggest hypo-crit I have seen in a long time.

A "Holier than thou" christian but condones, embraces & LOVES all of H's actions even those of adultery, she loves db 2 & her 2 illegit. kids alos. I try to pray for her 2, but have no use for her at all.

The best way 2 sum up the "Monster in Law" is this; She wants her son to be her lover <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> - need I say more.

P.S.

If only she could get ME out of the way. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> The best way 2 sum up the "Monster in Law" is this; She wants her son to be her lover - need I say more.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">OMGoodness - that's icky to the nth degree! Quick! Find me a pencil so I can poke my mental eye out!

Why don't they have a smiley for gross me the heck out????

- Kimmy

Isn't it sick! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/blush.gif" />

She has been divorced almost 20 yrs. ( I can't imagine y), & can't seem to get or keep a man, so H is the likely victim. I don't really think she would act on it given the chance, but I am sure it is H who she dreams about every nite.

Did I tell u she drives a car just like mine, she wants to be ME - aarrrgggghhhhh

Hi you all,

I am back from the water park. Me and my kids had sooo much fun. My husband did not go. He has water phobia. I read all your posts. Boy has this thread grown. Funny how we can find humor in all our pain. I feel for you all. Too bad we can't have a forget all the pain party. Kimmie, I hope your tummy is feeling better.

Well, where have I been? I never saw this thread till today. You guys are quick!

Well, I liked the original topic. I have a list of them but the most disturbing is the HPV that I now have. Do you know what that is? It is an std, a virus though so no cure. Not too bad but can lead to cervical cancer. Doesn't always BUT every woman who gets cervical cancer DOES have HPV. The more women I talk too, the more women I know w/ it!

As much as I'd like to blame it on STOW. It is more likely due to my H promiscuous past B4 me. EVERY ONE knows it is not from me! But I did not find out about it until after last pg.....??...Doc says it could have been there for YEARS but never have shown itself unitl a cell mutated! Oh LOVELY!

So...realistically....probably from before we married, even though we have been married over 11 years & A was 7 y ago & I am discovered w/ the hpv about 2 yo. whatever.

Hey, in men it can lead to PENILE cancer, although it is more rare for the men.The cure for that I believe is......."off w/ their head!" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/blush.gif" /> DOH! but it would serve them right! LOL

Sometimes i think I should tell OW, but figure hey! She can find out for herself! She thinks I have been w/ other men.....& I will never correct anything she thinks about me. I revel in the fact that she has these misconceptions about me. I enjoy the fact that she really knows nothing LOL

Worse is the depression, anorexia-like weight loss, major tension headaches & the feeling of being robbed of the last 2 years of my life for trying to do the 'right' thing! whatever.

@ least I can rely on the fact that I am not on welfare, looking like a complete [censored] w/ children from 2 different men that did NOT choose me. hmmm...."do I see a pattern here? The problem couldn't possibly be ME could it?" wah wah wah! "Look what these men did TO me! None of htis is MY fault." wah wah wah.......the wahmbulance is on it's way m'am.
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11.5 yo w/ the same sense of humor....coming back to haunt me! lol But I hold back for H...don't know if it will offend him or not if I make jokes about OW......don't want to remind him. blah blah blah.

I'm the mom that when son says,"you don't really love me! wah wah wah" I reply, "glad you finally figured it out because I was tired of pretending!" LOL NO whining allowed!

We're a bunch of jokers in this family---'cept my mom--she's the hyper sensitive one, she's known across the land for her 'looks'! watch out!

Hope everyone had a great weekend. We're off to another mini family get away. Goin' camping @ the beach Monday night--won't be back till Thursday afternoon! WOOHOO!!!!!!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Worse is the depression, anorexia-like weight loss, major tension headaches & the feeling of being robbed of the last 2 years of my life for trying to do the 'right' thing! whatever.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That weight loss is a doozy, isn't it? Of course, making lemonade out of lemons here, because of the weight loss I'm sportin' a 'kini now at the beach - and a new navel ring.

(((giggle))) I might've rebelled j-u-s-t a teeny-tiny bit, huh? Don't ask about the tattoo....(hehehehe)


I dunno about feeling robbed of the past few years - but they have a very surreal feel to them. I know that the year and a half that the A was happening, I felt was....shoot...what is the word??? It was incomplete somehow...no, that's not it, it was fake. This guy had promised me diamonds, but because of his A, he could only afford CZ. That's the exact right word, fake. That year and a half that I was so friggin in the dark, going about my life with dh - planting the garden with him, the trips to Lowes, the painting the living room and kitchen, the BUILDING A FRICKIN LIFE TOGETHER......it's like ashes now....those memories hurt sometimes so bad, that, like ashes, I wish they'd just blow away in the wind....

Oy. Look at me waxing philosophic this Monday. Quick, somebody slap me....
Um. Def. need to refil the zoloft today...only got one left.....ijo.

- Kimmy

Hi Ktbunch,

I was not gonna say anything about this but since you brought it up. I was too ashamed to mention it. I have HPV too. I got it from my second abusive husband before my present husband. I had suspected him of cheating but had no proof and I did not want to beleive he was. Sadly now I know just how bad he was. My 18 year old daughter just confided to me that My ex-husband had fondled her breasts at the age of 12. It might have got worse but she only stayed with me for six months. Before WH and I got together he accepted me with my STD. Sad thing is OW could possibly get STD. I don't feel too sad for her. Her stupid [censored] played with fire without using protection. When I first found out about the STD, I wanted to die. I thought nobody would ever love me. I strayed and seen a man while husband was in jail. He used protection and bleached privates upon finishing. Confirms my feelings that nobody will ever love me or accept me like this except my husband. Hence, My husbands revenge affair which resulted in pregnancy. Therefore sometimes it seems I put up with behavior from him I should not put up with. Does anybody have anything for me to make me feel better about myself. Ktbunch have you come to terms with your STD. For the most part I try and pretend like it don't exist since I have had no symptoms for three years now.

Hi Kimmie,

I know the feeling of things feeling fake. At least the way I deal with it is like this. Really and truly his affair was fake. Your relationship is real. Sorry about him giving you a fake diamond. I think you should throw it at him and tell him to get you a real diamond even if it is small. At least your relationship with him is permanent and hers was temporary. I hope you feel better.

Hey Genia! That's EXACTLY how I try to view it. Mostly, tho, I try not to think about it.

Oh, he didn't give me a fake diamond. I was just using the analogy of diamond vs. CZ and our life as I thought was vs. what he was doing on the side. I guess my analogy was flawed.

- Kimmy

Hi Kimmie,

Good analogy. Sometimes I make a mistake of takeing people literally. Problem with my husband. Many times he jokes saying things he does not mean. He used to joke about not loving me. I used to take him literal and get depressed. He don't joke about that no more. I think things are getting better between us.

Genia, don't feel bad. This one is not so bad I guess. I have found out that a BUNCH of my friends have it. I have been educating them on it. Most found out after a pg too.....interesting.

I was totally shocked & disgusted @ first.....then realizing it could lead to cancer! Scary. SO I stay educated. I take confidence in the fact that I KNOW it was not from me. Also I take responsibility that I KNEW my H was promiscuous before I met him....There could be worse thigns that show up years from now......you just never know.

SO we just have to take care of ourselves!

AND I also suspect that a lot MORE women will suddenly show up w/ this someday! I suspect the majority of women will end up w/ this. All you have to do is be w/ more than 1 person or your partner to be w/ more than 1 person......and there you are! This particular thing is like catching a cold, really.

No symptoms here either but......w/o insurance I have not really kept up on my check-ups like I should.

Take care of yourselves everyone! going on vacation......gotta run! see ya on the flip side! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Keeping yourself educated is the BEST defense, imo, KT. Sorry you have to deal with this...

- Kimmy