Does anyone know of good reference material that would help someone see the dangers of marrying a nonbeliever. Are Christians to marry unsaved people?<BR>...scripture....boooks...anything available<BR>could you plese recommend

Alright, I know better than to post to something that sets me off, but here I am doing it anyway . . . .<P>Cotthebull:<P>I don't believe there are dangers to marrying "nonbelievers" as you call them. There are things to be cautious about when entering into ANY marriage, regardless of the religious beliefs of the person you're marrying. <P>Personally, I think an individual has a right to marry whomever they wish to marry, whatever that person's religious beliefs may be. There are all kinds of reasons to get married, and all kinds of reasons NOT to get married, but IMHO, religious differences is not one of them. Others (such as you) may feel differently, and that’s their right.<P>I'm sure your post was well-intended, and I'm sure you ask this question because you're concerned about someone you know wanting to marry outside their faith. (If I'm wrong, I apologize, but I am making an assumption here.)<P>You ask:<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> Are Christians to marry unsaved people?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>My unequivocal answer is "Why not?" FYI, my wife is Jewish and I was raised Christian. Am I somehow out of God's graces because I found love with someone who doesn't necessarily believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah? Come on!<P>I, for one, would like to know exactly what "dangers" there are in marrying someone of a different religious faith. IMHO, there ARE no dangers. There <I>are</I> concerns, such as:<BR><UL TYPE=SQUARE><BR>* what religion will the kids be?<BR>* will the couple attend services for both religions?<BR>* what holidays do you celebrate?<BR>* how do you deal with disapproving parents, friends and relatives?<BR>* will the differences cause schisms in other aspects of your life?<BR></UL><P>Those same concerns can exist to a greater or lesser degree with ANY major difference between the two individuals in a couple.<P>I'm sure you can find PLENTY of books and scriptures which people may claim support the prospect that interfaith marriages are wrong. I simply think that's a rather bigoted position.<P>God loves ALL his children, not just the Christian ones.<P>------------------<BR>/// Lone Star * ///<P>

I am not a Christian and neither is my H. He is sort of eclectic leaning towards Buddhism. I am more New Age and tend to believe whatever works for you is right. I know a lot of people here are Christian and that is their right and I personally don't have a problem with it. My problems with my H have nothing to do with religious differences. In fact, that is one of the areas of our marriage that is problem free. We have many interesting discussions on religion. I don't have a problem with people from different faiths marrying, as long as both partners respect the other person's beliefs and their is no brow-beating. That's my opinion. In true human fashion you are sure to get many different ones. <P>------------------<BR>Blessed be.<BR>****************<BR>Keridwen<P>Keridwen_7@yahoo.com

I don't usually post to things that set me off either, but this just got under my skin... "dangers of marrying an unbeliever"... I am agnostic. Coming to this site has opened my eyes a bit on faith and prayer, but are you telling me I'm dangerous? Or that it was a dangerous thing that my H married me? That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard. I know it probably wasn't intended that way, but that's how I interpreted it when I read it.<P>I have never been baptised. My family decided that was a decision I could make on my own when I found what religion best suited me. For the most part, I feel I am Christian because of the different churches I've been to, and what I hold to believe in my heart. My H is Catholic. We were married by a Presbyterian pastor. In the eyes of God.<P>That is one part of our marriage that we have not had any problems whatsoever. <P>I believe myself to be a spiritual person, and I believe a person can be that even if they don't have a "religion". I tend to be on the "believer" side, but am still unsure.<P>Sorry about that - I had to vent that one out. I was personally offended by that, and I know you weren't trying to do that.<P>I'm sure some people here will have great references for you. I'm sorry I don't. And I do apologize now if I've offended you in anyway.<BR>

The following website may be of help to you. <BR> <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/8218/topic-15.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/8218/topic-15.html</A> <P>I think the key words to consider in this article are "understanding 'do not be unequally yoked' will keep you from much heartache". I am a Christian, married an unbeliever. I have certainly had "much heartache". It may have been a smoother ride for me if I had married a believer, however I didn't. The Lord has used this for His good, in that I am most likely the only Christian influence my H has in his life. Yes, my H believes there is a God, but doesn't believe he has to live for Him, or obey God's commandments. That is where the heartache comes in. For God made those commandments to save us from untold heartache. <P>I also believe in <B>I Corinthians 7:13-14:</B><P>"And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children will be unclean, but now they are holy."<BR>

Cotthebull,<P>Your question was asked concerning Christians. Maybe the definition of a Christian needs to be addressed. <P>Scripture speaks of one who has accepted Jesus Christ as their personal Savior. One who believes in the substitutionary death of Jesus on the behalf of all who would accept him. In so doing one states they believe Jesus died for our sins, and was resurrected for our justification. Justification means, "just as if I had never sinned. This also makes us right with God and causes us to inherit everlasting life.<P>Based on that premise your question in regards to whether or not a believer should marry an unbeliever is......NO. <P>The scriptural references given by Alcoholics Wife in the previous post are clear. A believer asks for nothing but trouble if they marry an unbeliever knowingly.<P>Lonestar, Keridwen7 and purplemag are responding as people who are of a different religious persuasion. Their points are not valid to a born again Christian.<P>Blessings, Taj

Speaking of being set off.<P>Dangers of marrying a non-believer? Well, in my case, maybe I should say "dangers of marrying a believer." Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? <P>My husband was raised strictly Catholic. Parochial boarding schools, the whole nine yards. I am an <B>atheist</B>, although I was raised in the Christian faith. <B>He</B> is the one who cheated on me. Deceived and lied to me for 4 years! <P>I am so darn sick of statements like yours and the enormous amount of hypocritical "Christians" I run across. Not to mention the "holier than thou" mentality of people like yourself. Care to tell an atheist, such as myself, what exactly makes you better than me? You just reaffirmed my beliefs. Thanks! UGH!!!<P>I live my life as "Christian" as absolutely possible. I have never done anything that would go against Christian morals. So, <B>you don't have to believe in Jesus as our savior to be a decent and moral human being.</B> <P>Sorry if I offended anyone, it was not my intention. <P>------------------<BR><I>The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched. They must be felt with the heart.<BR>Helen Keller</I><BR><p>[This message has been edited by Distrusting (edited March 03, 2000).]

Okay, I'm sorry again for offending... but, Taj:<P>"Lonestar, Keridwen7 and purplemag are responding as people who are of a different religious persuasion. Their points are not valid to a born again Christian."<P>Who are you to say our points aren't valid? And who said anything about being a Born Again Christian? I don't see that mentioned anywhere here.<P>Take what Distrusting said into consideration... <P>"I live my life as "Christian" as absolutely possible. I have never done anything that would go against Christian morals. So, you don't have to believe in Jesus as our savior to be a decent and moral human being."<P>Thank you, Distrusting...<P>I know we are probably taking this poor person's words so out of context, because it is so "short", however, I don't think it's fair to say our "points are not valid".<P>As stated, my H is a CATHOLIC. MY H WAS THE ONE WHO HAD THE AFFAIR...NOT ME.<P>So who's more "dangerous"? We are all human. We all have faults. Just because you believe in something different than any one of us, does not make you a better person.<P>I thought God was supposed to be nonjudmental anyway... are you calling God a hipocrite or just the human race?<P><BR><p>[This message has been edited by purplemag (edited March 03, 2000).]

I was horrified to read some of the responses to your question.<P>About the only response that makes sense (Biblically speaking) is the one from TAJ who defines what constitutes a 'true Christian'.<P>The ONLY standard you, me or anyone has to go by is what Sacred Scripture tells us.<P>The Apostle Paul was very clear when he asked the question: What fellowship has light with darkness? What communion has Christ with Belial (Satan)? Then he goes on to state:<BR>"Do not be unequally yoked".<P>For anyone who wants to fire back a nasty response to this...your argument isn't with me, it is with the Holy Spirit speaking through the Apostle Paul.<P>If one is truly a 'born-again' Christian, NO they should not marry an unbeliever! <P>If you want to further base your decision on the Word of God....it is also written "How can two walk together unless they be agreed?"<P>Also, "A kingdom (house) divided against itself can not stand".<P>There is a difference between 'religion' and true, Biblical Christianity! You are not a Christian just because you go to church or do good works, anymore than you become a car because you sleep in a garage!<P>All roads DO NOT lead to heaven! Jesus said very clearly He was the Way, the Truth and the Life and that NO MAN comes unto the Father except by Him!<P>Unless a man (or woman) is born again, born of the spirit, born from above (John 3:3), they can not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.<P>I am not trying to beat anyone over the head with the Bible..for I know I am supposed to speak the truth 'in love'. I guess I was more hurt, than angered by some of the responses.<P>I just want everyone to know the Jesus I have come to know and love and the peace/satisfaction only He can bring! I'm not talking about religion....I'm talking about a very personal relationship.<P>Jesus isn't just for Sundays...He's for Monday through Saturday. He's interested in every aspect of our lives..even in the little things.<P>For those who still wish to 'blast me' that's ok.....I know IN WHOM I have believed and a man with an EXPERIENCE is never at the mercy of a man with an ARGUMENT!]<P>Didn't mean to preach you a sermon...but the replies here just pushed the wrong buttons in me.<P>[censored] from Texas<P><p>[This message has been edited by [censored] (edited March 03, 2000).]

Purplemag,<P>First off, I am not offended! But when did this question enter into the arena of morality.<P>I am fully aware that the person who claims to be a Christian is not perfect. They make mistakes and sometimes sin. The definition I stated is my understanding of scripture.<P>The question was asked, "Should a believer marry an unbeliever?" That is the question I answered. I was not stating that Christians are perfect people who never do anything wrong. In fact, scripture says, "if we say we have no sin we are liars".<P>If you want to get into a theological discussion that is another post but for now the question I believe has been answered from several different perspectives. Let Cotthebull decide if the question has been answered sufficiently.<P>By the way, Thanks [censored]<P>Blessings, Taj<P>------------------<BR>"Perfect love casts out fear" I John 4:18

[censored],<P>I was having a conversation with my grandmother about Christianity. She was speaking of basically the same stuff you are. Telling me about there's only one way to Heaven, etc. I asked her how she knew this. Her response was to the affect that it says so in the Bible. Well, no offense, but in <B>YOUR</B> Bible it says this. It's probably no different than any other religion. <P>What makes your religion the correct one? What makes any one of the religions more right than the others? Each one claims to be the <B>only</B> right one. None of them are probably wrong, and none of them are probably purely fact. It's a matter of interpretation. <P>I just don't understand how some people can say that only <B>their</B> way is the correct way, because it says so in <B>their</B> religion. The fact remains that none of us truly know what the right answer is. Maybe it's that uncertainty that makes people hold onto their faith so strongly. <P>I'm honestly curious in your answers.<P>------------------<BR>The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched. They must be felt with the heart.<BR>Helen Keller<BR>

Hi [censored]!<P>I, by no means, am going to fire back a nasty response. I think, I am more now just looking for answers or at least the way some people think about religion or Jesus or God.<P>You said... "There is a difference between 'religion' and true, Biblical Christianity! You are not a Christian just because you go to church or do good works, anymore than you become a car because you sleep in a garage!"<P>Does that mean that even good church going people who live their life in good ways may not get to Heaven? I'm confused now. <P>You said.. "I am not trying to beat anyone over the head with the Bible..for I know I am supposed to speak the truth 'in love'. I guess I was more hurt, than angered by some of the responses."<P>I was hurt also. It's hard being in the "agnostic" stage of religion or beliefs. It's also hard when it feels like someone is ramming it down your throat too. I don't try to push my beliefs on anyone, and I guess I have a problem when people do it to me.<P>All people, Christian or otherwise, are entitled to their beliefs, aren't they? I came across harsh, because "it pushed the wrong buttons" with me too, just as our responses did with you.<P>I did not and do not ever want to offend anyone. I am sorry if I did to you. But, for Taj to say that my points aren't valid, to me is saying that my opinions and beliefs are worthless. I don't think that's fair.<P>I envy people who have a religion. Some higher power they can believe in. I was not brought up in a religious atmosphere. So it's hard to believe in something that you really haven't had exposure to. Do you believe that people of other religions are lost souls? That they won't go to a "good place" or a "heavenly place" after they die? That's not fair either.<P>I've tried to get in to religion. I know that seems weird to say, however, with my grandparents and other family members who have faith in God and Jesus, it's just hard for me to say, okay, today I'm going to start my religious experience. <P>This site has opened me up to the Christian faith. My grandparent also. And it's not just a Sunday thing. I think all people who believe in Christianity should believe that.<P>These are just my thoughts. I'm not firing back. I guess I just want to understand. That's all. I fired back in my previous responses, because I felt that my beliefs and ideas and opinions were being personally attacked.<P>Unfortunately, I guess this post pushed a lot of people's "wrong buttons"...<P>

Purplemag,<P>I need to clarify something. You were offended by my statement that your comments were not valid. Ok, poor choice of words, anything anyone says is worthy of validation. My reference was to the fact that you defined yourself as an "agnostic". My definition of an agnostic is " one who feels it is impossible to know whether there is a God". Is that you Purplemag? If not then I apologize.<P>I believe there is a God and He reveals Himself through the Bible. Thus I was finding my response based on scripture. <P>When we share an opinion I believe we either share from the same perspective or a different perspective. My comment in regards to validity was based on perspective. Again, if I have come across as judgemental I am sorry.<P>Blessings, Taj<P><P>------------------<BR>"Perfect love casts out fear" I John 4:18

Purplemag<P>I appreciate your honest and searching heart. Anyone who is truly hungry for truth, God will reveal it to them.<P>A true, Biblical Christian is one who has personally accepted by faith, the Lord Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour and Lord.<P>This is called being "born-again" as per John 3:3<P>Paul tells us in Ephesians that "By grace are we saved and not by works".<P>Christians are perfect, they are just forgiven. There is a vast difference between knowing 'about' God and 'knowing' God. <P>Sad to say.....many who have trusted in good works, going to church, baptism, living a moral life, trying hard to be good..will find themselves turned away.<P>I didn't write the book, I just quoted it:<BR>John 14:6 "Jesus himself speaking: I am the Way, the Truth and the Life"<P>Romans 10:9,10 "whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved; for with the heart man believes and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation".<P>Religion is man's concept of what God demands, while True, Biblical Christianity is a personal relationship with God, through His dear Son, Jesus Christ.<P>Just accept, by faith, His love for you and remember...you can't figure this out with your natural mind. Paul said in I Corinthians "The natural man receives not the things of the spirit because they are spiritually discerned (understood)".<P>When a person stands before the Lord on judgement day....the Lord will only ask one question: "What did you do with my son Jesus Christ?"<P>To accept Christ as one's personal Saviour is to accept Eternal Life...but to reject Him is to sign one's own eternal death warrant. <P>Some may say..I have never accepted Christ, but I have never rejected Him either.<BR>Jesus said "he that is not for (with) me is against me".<P>Also "He that has the Son, has the Father".<P>True Christianity is not a list of do's and don'ts; a list of rules and regulations. It is simply about one accepting, by faith, Jesus' death on the Cross, His burial, His bodily resurrection and ascenion into heaven and that His Pure and Divine blood paid for our sins, once and for all!<P>Remember...Christians aren't perfect..just forgiven. We are all in process of changing and becoming more Christ like. This process is called "spiritual maturity" or sanctification.<P>May God hear the cries of your heart as you seek for truth as did Pontius Pilate when Jesus stood before him that day; Pilate said "WHAT IS TRUTH?" <P>[censored] from Texas

[censored],<P>I don't appreciate you "telling" non-believers how they will spend eternity. It might save a lot of trouble if you would put the words "I believe" before you start preaching about our eternal damnation. You are speaking from a book. There is no way to prove that it is 100% pure <B>fact.</B><P>Just because you believe differently than me, does not make what you believe <B>correct</B>. What is so hard to understand about that? My convictions are just as strong as yours. Unfortunately, I don't have a 1900 year old "book" to quote from. <P>I throw my hands up. I guess I'll never get it. To each his own! <P>------------------<BR>The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched. They must be felt with the heart.<BR>Helen Keller<BR>

I am a Christian, and I define that the same way as Taj and [censored] does.<P>My dad always used this statement, when talking about "which religion is the right one...", and my dad has been known to take his best odds...<P>"If your religion will get you to heaven, and by your religion's standards, I'm going to heaven (meaning a non-Christian religion), and my religion says you will not go to heaven - but I will, then the odds are better for me if I choose my religion.... Because, if your right - I win. If I'm right, I win. But if I'm right, you lose.<P>There is only one religion that does not require ANYTHING to get to heaven, except to believe. And that is Christianity. Because, Jesus did EVERYTHING to pay the price for our ticket. That is what Christianity is about. <P>All other religions require some sort of works. <P>Is that true? or not?<P>*********<BR>In an answer to the questions, are "Christians" (and I read Christians as Taj defined them) supposed to marry non believers.... <P>Answer is NO.<BR>*********<P>Does this mean God does not recognize marriages that are not made up of two Christians? <P>Answer is: God said he hates divorce. He hates divorce PERIOD. ALL DIVORCES. <P>*********<P>Do I think God answers prayers of only Christians? <P>I think God loves ALL people, and listens to the hearts of us all. Many are called. Few are chosen.<P>*********<BR>TNT

[censored], Taj, and anyone else who cares to hear it:<P>My purpose in responding to this post was not to put down anyone, to offer an irrelevant opinion, or to inflame anyone. My purpose was to point out that religious differences do not mean a marriage should or shouldn't happen.<P>Regardless of your scripture quoting, [censored], a fundamental difference exists in the way you, as a "born again" Christian, and I, as one who was raised Christian, but am not "born again," interpret the Word of God.<P>You quote Jesus: "I am the Way." Well, what does that really mean? To you, it means "I must consciously believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, or I won't be saved."<P>To me, it means something MUCH less literal.<P>I realize that nothing I say can convince you that MY interpretation is right, just as nothing you say can convince me that your literalism is correct.<P>That is the beauty and the curse of religious doctrine. It is open to debate.<P>My concern with the original post was the negative connotations to the term "unbeliever." While I will grant you that someone who is not a Christian certainly wouldn't believe the tenets of Christianity, the term "unbeliever" smacks of the Inquisition mentality of converting the heathens.<P>My wife and I may not necessarily agree on what it takes to be "saved," but that difference of opinion has not kept us from experiencing and enjoying a tremendous love for each other.<P>I would simply ask that instead of using negative terms like "unbeliever," we try to be a little more sensitive to the feelings of some of the "unbelievers" who come here for help. Whether or not they believe in the tenets of Christianity, they deserve our compassion, and our respect just as much as a devout Christian.<P>Like I stated above, I'm sure no disrespect was intended, but the potential for misunderstanding was present.<P>Can we all just choose our words a little more carefully, please?<P>------------------<BR>/// Lone Star * ///<P>

Gosh, what a bunch of responses! My understanding of the first question was based on a christian tenet. An honest searching question. Asking for books, scripture etc...I did not see any referrals for opinions, or a desire for some kind of biblical debate, just one person asking a question that christians would answer. If one wanted an answer to a medical question, would they go to a plumber? I do not believe there was any effort made to besmirch anyone not of the faith, nor was there any attempt to be self-righteous in answering the question. The reason this forum works is that we all have something in common and that is hurt. We try to encourage one another, cheer one another on, cyberhug one another, etc. be mad together over crummy stuff that happens to us, etc. Though none of us are exactly alike, we can usually find some folks we can relate to. Cotthebull asked a question and deserved the dignity to get an answer for the things asked, not a debate. It isn't our job to judge one another. This was the general questions area...not the slam dunk area...talk about major love busting! Cotthebull, you have any other questions, come on down to the Womens bible study. We will give you the respect you deserve.

I GOT A LETTER FROM AUNT MARTHA THE OTHER DAY.<P><BR>SHE WRITES: <P>THE OTHER DAY I WENT TO THE LOCAL CHRISTIAN BOOKSTORE AND SAW A"HONK IF YOU LOVE JESUS" BUMPER STICKER. <BR>I WAS FEELING PARTICULARLY SASSY THAT DAY BECAUSE I HAD JUST COME FROM A THRILLING CHOIR PERFORMANCE, FOLLOWED BY A THUNDEROUS <BR>PRAYER MEETING.<BR>SO I BOUGHT THE STICKER AND PUT IT ON MY BUMPER. BOY, I'M GLAD I DID. WHAT AN UPLIFTING EXPERIENCE THAT FOLLOWED. I WAS STOPPED AT A RED LIGHT AT A BUSY INTERSECTION, JUST LOST IN THOUGHT ABOUT THE LORD AND HOW GOOD HE IS, AND I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT THE LIGHT HAD CHANGED.<BR>IT IS A GOOD THING SOMEONE LOVES JESUS BECAUSE IF THEY HADN'T HONKED, I'D NEVER HAVE NOTICED! <BR>I FOUND THAT LOTS OF PEOPLE LOVE JESUS !<BR>WHY, WHILE I WAS SITTING THERE, THE GUY BEHIND STARTED HONKING LIKE CRAZY, AND THEN LEANED OUT OF HIS WINDOW AND SCREAMED, "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! GO! GO!, JESUS CHRIST GO!<BR>WHAT AN EXUBERANT CHEERLEADER HE WAS FOR JESUS!<BR>EVERYONE STARTED HONKING!<BR>I JUST LEANED OUT MY WINDOW AND STARTED WAVING AND SMILING AT ALL THOSE LOVING PEOPLE.<BR>I EVEN HONKED MY HORN A FEW TIMES TO SHARE IN THE LOVE. THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MAN FROM FLORIDA BACK THERE BECAUSE I HEARD HIM <BR>YELLING SOMETHING ABOUT A "SUNNY BEACH". I SAW ANOTHER GUY WAVING IN A FUNNY WAY, WITH ONLY HIS MIDDLE FINGER STUCK UP.- A HAWAIIN GOOD LUCK SIGN OR SOMETHING??<BR>WELL, I'VE NEVER MET ANYONE FROM HAWAII, SO I LEANED OUT THE WINDOW AND GAVE HIM THE GOOD LUCK SIGN BACK. MY GRANDSON BURST OUT LAUGHING.... WHY EVEN HE WAS ENJOYING THIS RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE.<BR>A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WERE SO CAUGHT UP IN THE JOY OF THE MOMENT THAT THEY GOT OUT OF THIER CARS AND STARTED WALKING TOWARDS ME.<BR>I BET THEY WANTED TO PRAY OR ASK WHAT CHURCH I ATTENDED, BUT THIS IS WHEN I NOTICED THAT THE LIGHT HAD CHANGED.<BR>SO, I WAVED TO ALL MY SISTERS AND BROTHERS, GRINNING, AND DROVE ON THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.<BR>I NOTICED THAT I WAS THE ONLY CAR THAT GOT THROUGH THE INTERSECTION BEFORE THE LIGHT CHANGED AGAIN, AND I FELT KIND OF SAD THAT I HAD TO LEAVE THEM AFTER ALL THE LOVE WE HAD SHARED.<BR>SO I SLOWED THE CAR DOWN, LEANED OUT OF THE WINDOW AND GAVE THEM ALL THE HAWAIIN GOOD LUCK SIGN ONE LAST TIME AS I DROVE AWAY.<BR>PRAISE THE LORD FOR SUCH WONDERFUL FOLKS.<P>AUNT MARTHA:<P>Sometimes, it is all a matter of perspective. Only God knows what is in the hearts of man or what one's motive is. Please be more gentle.

SueB:<P>I believe you've missed several of the responses which DID offer an answer to Cotthebull's question, "Are Christians to marry non-believers."<P>Several have said "no." My first post said "why not?"<P>I don't believe ANYONE disrespected the question asked, or the spirit in which it was asked.<P>My point, and I think it's been proven here, is that the terminology used could be offensive to several here who are NOT Christians.<P>If you will refer to my most recent post before this one, I simply wish that people posting would use a little better judgment in phrasing questions. This is NOT a Christians Only web site. There ARE non-Christians who post here. Just use a little sensitivity when posting. That's all!<P>----------------<P>TNT:<P>Actually, I don't think Christianity stands for simply belief without works. I think Christianity stands for the principle that works, without the faith/belief, are meaningless.<P>If one truly believes the tenets of Christianity, then he/she will seek out to do good works, as Jesus teaches to help one's fellow man. You are correct that the works themselves are not what get you salvation, but belief without the works is probably not "true" belief.<P>------------------<BR>/// Lone Star * ///<P>