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#958149 11/16/01 11:51 PM
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Think I'll skip the clamps and whatever they are [img]images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0[/img] <p> Let me know if I get on your nerves ladies....lol<p> jd

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LOL JDmac... the clamps are from my tubal ligation on Wednesday. I would HOPE you wouldn't be eligible for them! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0[/img]

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Even with the immigration situation, you could volunteer with an organization in the areas you relate to the most. I am sure there are organizations in London that would be just too happy to have a little of your time, if you want to try something else on for size. I find that when I get deeply saddened with my 'stuff', it can really help to feel like I can support others with some of their stuff. I guess that is part of why I keep hanging around the MB forums, whether I am in a good, bad or neutral place personally. (I guess that "provider guardian" category in Myers-Briggs testing is pretty accurate, at least in my case.)<p>What is your support and friendship network like? I know your H is great, but if you are separated from your friends and family, you don't have many shoulders to lean on. Of course, we are here; but sometimes real live shoulders to lean on or a non-virtual hug makes a big difference.<p>I really think that my best women friends and my MB friends helped me hang onto my sanity this year. So, that thin thread that my sanity is hanging on is made of fibres from here and from in-body support. Although my in-body friends do not understand my feelings like MBers, they can hand me tissue paper, hold my hand, make tea, and serve it all up with fresh chocolate chip cookies.<p>If I could, Sheryl, I'd be pre-heating my oven for you. Too bad we aren't closer in proximity. (Canada is just such a great big country!)<p>OneDay<p>p.s. This reply made more sense when I started writing it. I see that we are now talking about ovulation. Hmm, not sure I have much to add to that.

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Oh Karen, OUCH for you... be careful... <p>and hey, jd, yes YES ovulation DOES COUNT -- see, I'm talking very LOUD, so that means it counts!<p>You guys are truly helping... maybe by the time my H comes home I can do something that resembles smiling (he'll be home in a 1/2 hr. so I'll have to get offa here in about 20 minutes... but don't leave yet!)

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Sheryl: are you in London now?

#958154 11/16/01 11:55 PM
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Nyneve, I don't post a lot here but read tons like so many other people and so I feel like I know many of you. I've been reading a book on ADD that a neighbor of mine was raving about, just because I thought it would be interesting and maybe I could use some of the info at work. I can't put it down!! I don't think I have ADD as such but it sure has answered a lot of questions for me. I've been thinking of you off and on all evening and wonder if you might have read this book, too. It's almost eerie that you should be on here!!!
book is "Scattered Minds" by Gabor Mate
In case you haven't here is a site where you can read some of the book online. I think there's a lot of people here that would find it enlightening!!http://www.scatteredminds.com/book.htm<p>[ November 16, 2001: Message edited by: Alizarin ]</p>

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I could so kiss you all right now! Thank you for this...<p>I have no support network. I don't say that to make ya'll feel sorry for me, but it's the truth. I haven't been able to get out much either, which is another reason the counseling will be good. Our apartment is filled with lovely but wrinkled, somewhat crusty, old people, we haven't found a church yet (that's a WHOOOOOLE other story), my best friend is 1000 miles away, and you know the rest (family, etc.)... and I was told, oh so nicely, that I can't volunteer anywhere (I tried with the Institute for the Blind) because I need a social insurance number for Workmans' Comp type of coverage ... so ... um... I did yell out to a lady who was walking in the middle of the road to move over two feet to her right -- we're right by the Institute -- you know, they use the metric system here, but she seemed to get over far enough to get out of traffic. And, no, I'm not kidding, this is serious.

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Well if a lady tells me ovulation counts then who am I to argue hehe.<p> I am so glad you are feeling a little better. I hate seeing good people down. <p> I know we haven't had a lot of discussion, but I do read some of your posts. Hang in there Sheryl. Things will get better.<p> [img]images/icons/tongue.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/cool.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/tongue.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/wink.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] <p> I love these new little icons, don't you? hehe<p> jd

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by jdmac1:
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I love these new little icons, don't you? hehe<p> jd</strong><hr></blockquote><p>I"m glad to see how they work now! I was only able to do the [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] and [img]images/icons/wink.gif" border="0[/img] before. hehehe.

#958158 11/17/01 12:03 AM
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Karin, I'm in Hamilton... <p> <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Alizarin:
<strong>Nyneve, I don't post a lot here but read tons like so many other people and so I feel like I know many of you. I've been reading a book on ADD that a neighbor of mine was raving about, just because I thought it would be interesting and maybe I could use some of the info at work. I can't put it down!! I don't think I have ADD as such but it sure has answered a lot of questions for me. I've been thinking of you off and on all evening and wonder if you might have read this book, too. It's almost eerie that you should be on here!!!
book is "Scattered Minds" by Gabor Mate</strong><hr></blockquote><p>No, I haven't read that one... but you may know that I am ADHD... did you?? I wonder if they'd have that at the library? <p>I was diagnosed in my 30's by the way, and it SURE DID answer LOTS of questions. Back in the 60's they did some tests, but said I wasn't ADHD, just hyper - go figure. I had an EEG, and they thought they could tell by that. Of course, we now know that you can't tell by an EEG. <p>Wow, it's always neat to see a lurker come out and know you... like something we've said has mattered... thank you for coming in to our little party, and I will honestly look for that book!

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Nyneve:
<strong>Karin, I'm in Hamilton... <p>
</strong><hr></blockquote><p>Ah... OneDay mentioned London in one of her posts there.. it got me excited! I thought we could go out for coffee (although I don't drink the stuff.. honest!). Hamilton is still a fair stretch from here (an hours drive on the 403 I think).

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by jdmac1:
<strong> I love these new little icons, don't you? hehe<p> </strong><hr></blockquote><p>Yes, I do, and I had to remove yours to insert mine because there were TOO MANY and it wouldn't post, so sorry about that...<p> [img]images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img]

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Sheryl,<p>I did not know that about volunteering. I guess having a s.i.n. is one of those things we take for granted. (And there are so, so many...)<p>Your building being full of older folks, well...
Have you tried Wilfrid Laurier University or McMaster University? You would not need a s.i.n. to check out the women's centre, or the international students' centre, or the mature students' association, or the coffee shop, etc. And, I would be surprised if student organizations would turn down a volunteer. I don't remember once being asked for a s.i.n. when volunterring at a Canadian university. (Then again, it has been a while.)<p>OneDay<p>[ November 16, 2001: Message edited by: OneDay ]</p>

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Topie25:
<strong><p>Ah... OneDay mentioned London in one of her posts there.. it got me excited! I thought we could go out for coffee (although I don't drink the stuff.. honest!). Hamilton is still a fair stretch from here (an hours drive on the 403 I think).</strong><hr></blockquote><p>Oops, just noticed I spelled your name wrong, sorry... hey, an hour isn't that far away, at least not for a healed person... so maybe when all is nicely healed we could make a date! Just a thought...

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Yup, I knew you had ADHD and that's why you came to mind. This guy claims that while we are genetically predisposed to ADD, most of it's caused by improper infantile/mother interaction. He's not pointing any fingers, just says that in our stressful society that's the way it is and why ADD is becoming more and more common. He says often if you have ADD, one or more of your children will as well. He has it and so do his 3 kids.

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Sheryl,<p>
{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}<p>Sorry you are having a hard time. You helped me through my darkest days/nights when I had no one, wish I could do the same for you<p>gina

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Alizarin:
<strong>Yup, I knew you had ADHD and that's why you came to mind. This guy claims that while we are genetically predisposed to ADD, most of it's caused by improper infantile/mother interaction. He's not pointing any fingers, just says that in our stressful society that's the way it is and why ADD is becoming more and more common. He says often if you have ADD, one or more of your children will as well. He has it and so do his 3 kids.</strong><hr></blockquote><p>HA! WOW!! I guess my mother abandoning me when my birth father died (I was 2 months old) until she remarried when I was 2 years old just **might** have had something to do with it, according to the author. <p>My son is ADHD... he wasn't breathing when he was born (he's also got lots of other neurological disorders)... so of course, I smothered him to pieces... I wonder... this is VERY INTERESTING to me... I HAVE to get that book!! I'll call you out when I read it and we'll have a nice long talk, okay??? Thanks so much!

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Nyneve:
<strong><p>so maybe when all is nicely healed we could make a date! Just a thought...</strong><hr></blockquote><p>I am SO FOR THAT!!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] <p>I've been in London for over 3 yrs now, and don't know anyone really. My fault, for not getting involved in a church or volounteer position anywhere. Well.. I did know one person... she became OW#1. Needless to say, I'm rather skeptical about meeting non-MBers. [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] <p>I don't drive though [img]images/icons/frown.gif" border="0[/img] Silly.. isn't it? I just turned 29, and yet I haven't even TRIED to get my licence! (what's the Homer Simpson "DOH!" gremlin? LOL)

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SING!! Hi!! [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] Thank you!! (((((sing))))) So nice to see you!!<p> <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by OneDay:
<strong>Sheryl,<p>I did not know that about volunteering. I guess having a s.i.n. is one of those things we take for granted. (And there are so, so many...)<p>Your building being full of older folks, well...
Have you tried Wilfrid Laurier University or McMaster University? You would not need a s.i.n. to check out the women's centre, or the international students' centre, or the mature students' association, or the coffee shop, etc. And, I would be surprised if student organizations would turn down a volunteer. I don't remember once being asked for a s.i.n. when volunterring at a Canadian university. (Then again, it has been a while.)<p>OneDay<p>[ November 16, 2001: Message edited by: OneDay ]</strong><hr></blockquote><p>Oh, I'm in Hamilton... for some reason the London ref passed by me... sorry. I'm in a retirement area of town though... and we have a University very close by also, so yes, that's a great idea!

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There's been a lot of times when something will happen, like one of the kids where I work will be making fun of someone else, and I've been taken aback at how strongly I react. He says that our body is remembering but we don't conciously and that's why we seem to experience these emotions that are so out of proportion to what is actually happening.

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