Ok Indy, <p>I read your e-mail. Can you talk about it a bit?<p>L.

Indy, I sent you an e-mail also. You there?

Orchid and Faith,<p> I got your emails. I am glad to know that you could call me a friend. Thanks for helping me during the destruction of a family. I really hope that both of you and your families find peace. I will catch you later. <p>Indy

Everyone,<p> Well, she is at it again. WS set me this email and I hope that I responded ok. It is even close what I really wanted to send her, but here it is. I guess it is time to just destroy her.<p> You need to come and get your van or it will be towed!!!!! you chose not to follow the agreement that you signed and these are the results!!

Mrs. Indy<p>My reply,<p> I am still going through all of the boxes. I hope to have all of it gone through in the next week or so. I was out of the office on Friday and I didn't see your email until today. When do you want to see the kids next?<p>Indy

Sounds like you were just given back your vehicle. Go get it before she changes her mind. Make sure all the DMV work is back in your name. Didn't they change it over to him????<p>L.

Orchid,<p> The van has always been in my name. She even took the plate off of my van and put it on their new van. She has had it on the van since December.<p> I really am upset for the way I responded to her email. I really wanted to say this.<p> You talk about signed aggreements, but what about the one that you signed on our wedding day? What about the words that you said to me before God, friends, and family? I guess that none of that and what happened before had any meaning. I would like to know when you would like to see the kids again.<p> What do you think?<p>Indy

Orchid,<p> I sent you an email. I am wondering how to respond if she emails me about what was said today? Should I say what I later stated. I will say that I called the lawyer and brought him up to speed. If I go and get the van then I will take the Police with me to minimize any problems. Here is the kicker though. I will also take the plate off of their van and walk away. I am wondering if she is doing this to strike out at me. My lawyer said a funny thing. She talked about having the van towed. He asked where could she tow it too? <p>Indy

Orchid and Faith,<p> I talked to the lawyer again today. He wasn't suprised that she would send me a message like that. We talked about me getting the van and having a letter ready to give her about her half of the payments for the van. I really enjoyed that part. Considering that I have been making the payments since Jan 01 on my own. Also, will ge the plate at the sametime. I think that will go over real well. We then talked about why this thing hasn't moved forward. I told him that I couldn't understand her right now. I wonder to this day why she hasn't moved this thing forward. He said the she has to get a lawyer first, and that she has most likely that following reasons for not pushing this along. <p>1. She doesn't have the money and doesn't want to pay for anything and is just to lazy too.<p>2. She is just waiting to see if it works out with the OM and is keeping me on the bake burner.
She just wants to have her cake and eat it too.<p>3. She isn't sure that she wants this.<p> You know which one I would like to choose. I just have the nagging feeling that it is a combination of 1 and 2. <p>Indy<p>Forgot to add. She didn't email me back today. I guess that she just wanted to get under my skin.<p>[ March 12, 2002: Message edited by: INDY_357 ]<p>[ March 12, 2002: Message edited by: INDY_357 ]</p>

Orchid,<p> I got your email. I guess it is time I really told her something so here it is.<p> You talk about signed aggreements, but what about the one that you signed on our wedding day? What about the words that you said to me before God, friends, and family? <p>Indy<p>[ March 12, 2002: Message edited by: INDY_357 ]</p>

Bump. Looking for you Orchid and Faith. You both have mail.<p>Indy<p>[ March 12, 2002: Message edited by: INDY_357 ]</p>

Indy,<p>Sounds like you're having a hard time with her right now. I will not try to give you advice since Orchid and Faith have been to good at that and I'm out of the loop. Just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of you.

Everyone,<p> Sorry for going into solitude for awhile. Orchid, Faith, and some others were helping me with a new letter to WW. I didn't want her to stumble onto it. Since I know that she is on the internet now.<p>Orchid and Faith,<p> Letter delivered. I gave it to her after son's basketball game. She didn't drive the van she came with one of her new friends. It was someone that I met when I talked to the OM. He wanted to talk to me there at church. I told him no. This is my father's place of employment and that he could lose his job beccause of this. He said fine I guess I can come to your place of employment. I wonder what was so important that he wanted to talk to me. I let her have the kids and she will see the new house for the first time. She asked me about the email that she sent about seeing the kids acouple of weeks ago. I told her that I responded and that she should have gotten it. She says that she didn't. She also wore those earings again. <p> On the letter issue. I know that I shouldn't expect her to say anything about it. It is just at some level I hoped to touch my wife that is somewhere in her body. if she is even still there. <p>Indy<p>[ March 16, 2002: Message edited by: INDY_357 ]<p>[ March 16, 2002: Message edited by: INDY_357 ]</p>

Indy,<p>Just read your update. Seems like this MB stuff (plan a or b or even the support here) appears to be empowering the BS to the point that the OPs are coming out of the woodwork and communicating with the BS (I have counted about 5 of you guys within the past couple of months). Interesting indeed.<p>Now Indy you need to step back and see where this all takes you. Compare that where you want to be for yourself and your children. Am I asking that you be patient once again? Yes. Remember that even if the A should tumble and break, it will still be painful not just for the Ws but also for you and your family. <p>I want you to be prepared. You are already moving in the right direction and you have a couple of little ones in your care. Focus on them. Let your W work on coming back and proving her worth to her family. <p>Let us know how the OM thingy goes. You definitely got my curiosity peaked as to why he now wants to talk with you? [img]images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0[/img] <p> [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img]
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Orchid,<p> He isn't even the OM. I find it funny that she brought a friend of both of them to his game, but can't bring the OM. I guess she doesn't want to show off that new man of hers. He goes to all of my SD's things, but won't come to anything that involves my children. I am absolutely baffeled by this frienb beening there and wanting to talk to me. I just can't imagen what could possibly be so important that he needs to say it. <p> I guess from what my son told me that they came by the house 2 hours before she was suppose to drop them off. I wonder what seeing the house for the first time and my letter have put in motion. I ment every word that was in that letter. I tell you now if she stays away forever I will not ever be with someone else. It would feel like I was cheating on my W. Yes, before even ask it. If the divorce goes through I will still maintain my vows to my wife. Because I have her in my heart and in my memories. Yes, I would love to make new one with her and the kids, but that is up to her. I am just going to have to bear the pain of her beening gone. <p> Know that I think about it she called the house about an hour after she took the kids with her. I wonder if she read it while she was riding to the OM's house. I don't know, but I am not really dwelling on her thinking about it. I have changed my tactics again. I will talk to her when she calls. That I think will show her the change. What do you think?<p>Indy<p>[ March 17, 2002: Message edited by: INDY_357 ]</p>

Indy, <p>You can make all the changes and show her all you want but if she is not willing to acknowledge it or even look at you, then she will not see any benefit. Just as you can not control what her eyes chooses to view it is just as important for her to know that she can not control what you do also. <p>Indy, I will say this because I am just an 'old' lady. [img]images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0[/img] LOL!!! Don't close all your doors of opportunity for your future. You are way too young for that. For that matter so am I. [img]images/icons/wink.gif" border="0[/img] So before you lock your heart up in a box and throw away the key, remember that life is full of changes. Just leave yourself open for the right changes. Your children will go through many changes and so will U. <p> [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] <p>L.

Orchid,<p>So before you lock your heart up in a box and throw away the key, remember that life is full of changes. Just leave yourself open for the right changes. <p> I can't see myself with anyone else but WW. I don't think that it is fair to the kids or myself. I have only room for one woman in my heart. I will always be that way.<p>Indy<p>[ March 17, 2002: Message edited by: INDY_357 ]</p>

Orchid,<p> I just wanted to let you know that this friend of hers didn't show up today, and I don't think that he has the guts to do it. I still am perplexed by him trying in the first place. <p> On the letter. I am not sure it was such a good idea. I am in plan B and all, but I guess it is to late for that. I have this picture in my head that she just tossed it in the trash and kept right no going.<p>Indy

Sit back and wait. Maybe you will see a show of strength later. In the meantime you flex those muscles of yours in behalf of your family. <p>Your little ones should be keeping you busy. Then there is this board. Many need help here........ Your help. K? [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] <p>L.

Orchid,<p> I know that I have to sit back and wait. Waiting is the hardest part. You have mail. [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] <p>Indy<p>[ March 18, 2002: Message edited by: INDY_357 ]</p>

Everyone,<p> I know it has been along time since I posted. Alot of things have happened. I just found out some really strange things tonight. My WS moved fromt the OM's house today. [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] Needless to say. I was shocked. [img]images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0[/img] I know that because she called from her new apartment. She is living on the other side of town from him. We talked for the first time for along time. Alot of things were said, but I have a couple of questions. I asked her if she ever missed me. She replyed that she really missed the friend that I was before. I talked about it for awhile and I even said something like this. Let us be friends and see were it takes us. You never know it may drive us further apart and it might bring us together. I also told her that I miss my wife and family. She said that you don't miss me I am a different person that I was. I said yes I do. I told her at the end of our conversation that I waited 3 years for you to give me a chance the first time. I tell you now I will what a life time just to stroke you face again. She told me I was living in the past. We left it at that. I don't want to get any false hope. Should I stay with plan B or move to a modified plan A? I really need help here.<p>Indy<p>[ March 25, 2002: Message edited by: INDY_357 ]</p>