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Ok, so it has been a little over 3 months now since my H shared the news of the affair he had Fall '03-Jan '04 and left me, giving me the whole BS talk of "not in love" anymore. He has definitely acted about 15 years younger than his 30 yo age since telling me the news, acting very arrogant, angry, and verbally abusive (all very uncharacteristic of the person I fell in love with). It is very obvious that he is fogged and that he is fighting insecurity issues stemming from job dissatisfaction and rejection associated with not getting a dream job. This had to be very demoralizing since my career has taken off at the same time. I am aware that too much of my energy has been spent on work and athletics and that I have failed to meet his emotional needs to the best of my capacity this past year because of this. I have apologized and told him that I am working to tone down the intensity in my life as means to make myself happy and cater better to his needs. But now, I think some of the fog is lifting as he seems to be able to at least send me positive affirmations via e-mail and confront some of our common friends....perhaps some of what I have done in plan A is working?

The bad news is that I think he may be having another affair with another woman <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> ...this isn't 100% confirmed but he did tell me that he has been out on dates with a couple woman and his landlord told me she saw overnight female bags at his new apartment. He has signed a year long lease at this apartment which leaves me wondering where his head is at with regards to our future? He has done a lot of shady things to me which makes me a bit confused about whether or not I am doing the right thing by staying with him but only know how to follow my heart. Again, he has seemed to come out a bit more positive these past couple weeks since I have isolated myself from him and focused more on my life.

I guess I am just not sure if I should be still in plan A or headed towards plan B...like sending the no contact letter that I posted earlier? How long should I stay in Plan A? I can't keep my life in a standstill forever waiting for him. I desire to be married, desire to start a family, desire to buy a house, etc., etc....want to do this with H but not if he is going to be around other woman for the next couple years.

I have done everything I feel I can to let him know that I support him, want to help him. He knows that I am willing to try to forgive him so we can try to rebuild our marriage. What should I be doing now....do you think plan A or plan B is appropriate at this point in time? Is the card/letter I posted earlier appropriate to send him? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

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Trying to keep hope in San Diego

Me: 28 yo faithful wife of 3 years
Him: 30 yo unfaithful H; affair fall '03-Jan '04; he ended it, dropped bomb in May '04 and immediately left me, has been less than nice to me since separation but now seems to be acting more cordial. He just signed a year long lease at a new apt and may be dating another woman???

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I know where you are coming from. It sounds like my post (any advice). I know the feeling of wanting a family. I guess each of us needs to decide on our own what to do. We can't perdict the future to see if they will change or not. All we can do is pray and follow the steps God has laid before us. I am almost ready to move on. I called my h and asked him to talk to me face to face he said for what. Like nothing is going on. He said he doesn't want to talk. What am I suppose to do with that attitude. I know the feeling that the person you fell in love with was a great person but is not anymore. I will pray that you find out what God has is store for your life. As far as plan A or B, Give A a little more time but not to much. Since he has started to show improvement see if it continues, if not plan B him

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KJB.....First off, sorry to hear there are at least two of us in San Diego dealing with this...

I'm by no means an "experienced one" but I seem to be learning more everyday. Guess it comes with the A territory.

I read your other post and Believer tossed it right out there....Plan A or Plan B?

As soon as I learned about Plan A, I started. I focused more on myself and less on WW's A. Changes started to occur. I was feeling better; WW acknowledged the changes (during a moment of her confusion/fog) - just told me, I didn't ask. I guess my first question is "how are you?" I learned early in the process that "you can't teach your WW anything while she's in the middle of the fog". I tried and boy were they right. I stopped trying to "show her the errors of her ways" and started moving on with the MB principles. Essentially, re-discovering myself and showing her what she'll be missing.

The reason I asked "how are you" is because something else I learned is that you can only Plan A for so long until you start to lose your love/desire/drive for you WS. When that happens, it's time for Plan B.

I've got some threads saved at home from ARK, WAT and others that really helped define for me a "true Plan A". I can't find them right now, but I'll post them once I'm home. They really helped me.

I found something earlier today from Noodle. I'll bump it up.......LS

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Sorry....The bump is "can too much Plan A have opposite affect".......LS

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great advice from noodle!

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Thanks for the advice...I seem to be more and more confused each day! Grrrr. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

One day I am utterly pissed about everything <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> I have done for him this past year while he lives another life with another woman and question whether or not this is what I really want for my future. The next day, I start thinking my future and I picture him being a wonderful husband to me, a wonderful father to two beautiful Californian babies <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> .

It is just hard to let go of a life that has been so wonderful to me...in fact, part of the reason I stayed in San Diego rather than go back to school (east coast) was because of the love we shared. He was the first person I met when I moved out here so I really don't have any memories here in San Diego that don't include him. I even ride my bike by our wedding site (the beach) everyday...it hurts!

I am trying to let go and do things for myself...went to a block party/concert last night with a couple friends but I ended up observing all the loving couples which just triggered memories of how much I loved sharing that passion with H...ugh. I desire that back in my life...I have been without that affection, that love, that satisfaction for at least 3 months now and really a year (since H had his affair last fall) now and I so much want to feel that love again.

I don't feel ready to date other men...can't fathom and don't desire to be with anyone else but my H especially since he was my first experience with love in the first place. But I know that there is probably someone else out there who will treat me with the respect and love that I deserve...I hate not knowing if my H will ever come out of the fog and be that man. I don't want to waste my life away waiting for someone who obviously hasn't returned the love and passion I have provided.

And his mom is right, I can't compromise the success I have experienced with my business and athletics just because he has self esteem issues. Ugh...I am sick of being so confused about this...just want my life to be normal again! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

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So my H's mom does not think sending my letter (see earlier post) or card is a good idea. She has given me some good advice; I have actually talked to her more than her own son during this whole ordeal. She even wrote an apology letter to my parents for her son's actions! I guess I should feel good about that. It makes me so sad to think that if my H doesn't get his head out of his A** soon that his whole family will be negatively affected and my interaction with his family will dwindle <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

Dear K:

I'm sorry to say, but think it's a very bad idea. I wish I was wrong, but I don't think I am. First off---think about it: once you semi put H on ignore he at least sent you a few emails. As for all the stuff you wrote, I know it is how you feel, and since I do, I'm sure H does more so. So, why go over it again and again with someone like him? Next: you started in on how you needed to change---reread second paragraph in Letter to H. Your part in all this. How many times do I and everyone else have to tell you---none of this, except the hurt he caused you has anything to do with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! H made the choices he made because he wanted to, NOT because of you. That's what you need to get right in your mind. You are hanging on to a memory, not who H is now. I'm as always so sorry all this has happened to you because of his choices. But, and until he makes up his mind in a different way there is nothing you can say or do to change his mind. And----I really hate to hear you talking/writing about compromising your goals and dreams for a S.O.B. who is not willing to make the slightest effort to rekindle any of it right now. He fell in love with who you are, and he fell out of love because of who HE became. NOT anything you did..... Please start putting this in the right perspective. Hope you're not upset with my response, but, you ask, and I would never be anything but honest. Love, H's mom

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kjb...I'm going to try and send a couple very good links that helped me early on. Hope they post and certainly hope they help.....LS

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/forum/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=29;t=000940

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Here's a couple more.....Looks like the link made it through...... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
.....LS
http://www.marriagebuilders.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=29&t=002559#000000

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=37;t=020829#000000

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Thanks my San Diego friend <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />

The links helped me understand at least what I should be trying to be doing during this mess.

I also just read the following post which helped at least to inspire me...

For Encouragement - Lostva's Success Story - A MUST READ!


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