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#1218579 11/12/04 06:14 PM
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Brown !!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

I see you!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

#1218580 11/12/04 11:25 PM
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Sheesh Idiotans - can we continue this thread without offending the mods?

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yes mayor i was there ... when i went to post ZAP "CANNOT FIND SERVER" our computer is not feeling so good either.

Thank you for the song --- I kept seeing that frog singing it --- or was it an alien --- ya know in one of the "Airplane" movies. But thanks again.

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I don't think it's the mods that are offended. We got a pretty good 'splanation a page or so back.

**edit**

<small>[ November 12, 2004, 11:37 PM: Message edited by: Justuss ]</small>

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Robby, I know you're angry but please don't get us shut down.

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Those are real asterisks. Not an auto-edit. I'm just really frusterated. Idiotville is a reprieve from a lot of pain and misery, some of which is inflicted on these forums. Why people who do not participate would want to stop the good that goes on here is beyond me.

I don't respect that. I don't respect anyone who refuses to explain why they are turning us in to the mods. I don't respect someone hiding in the shadows, lurking, waiting, dying to nark.

Idiotville has grown a lot. It's now more like a network, a support network with a life of it's own. Idiots email, call and build relationships, friendships. Idiots take turns supporting, coaching, mentoring, learning, sharing, leaning, helping. To think there are no MB values here is naive at best.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by robby13:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by KiwiJ:
<strong> Justuss, point taken about the language.

The complaints, however, I have never understood.

If the people complaining about us actually read between the lines and past all the silliness, all they will see is a group of people supporting each other and just plain old friendship.

This thread (and the other one) has brought most of us on it through some pretty dark moments in our lives and marriages.

Jen </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Very well put Jen!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Thought it deserved another look!! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">OK, ditto ditto! (What woulda ditto of a ditto be?

Hey Idiots! Brown warned me...but a special thanks to Pat (seriously.) I don't think it is the mods either...and I'm proof that without Idiotville/Jelly! (RIP) I don't think I would be where I am now. (Even in this short time. It has helped me; not hindered.) And case in point, I also would not be posting to MB and gaining the support (outside of brown <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> ) that I really need right now. I am an Idiot here; not a FWH. I am a person who is needy of support--not an abbreviation. Yes, admittedly who has made many mistakes in his life, who has tremendously hurt his wife whom he adores and loves and is in love with sooooo much, who has learned it is OK to make mistakes, but to ensure knowledge and change is birthed from those near-fatal errors, and if I do cause any more pain from those same mistakes, a band of Idiots will hunt me down and kick my--butt. (That was for you JU!) And I believe that...And I feel safe here...and I know the members/idiots do follow the principles--they wouldn't even be on the site, right?

I don't feel I "deserve" anything right now. Really. And my friends here in Idiotville--from all walks, all abbreviations. etc--are here for one reason--to attempt to rebuild their marriage.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Edit happy? Farrr from it. I'm "TRYING" to keep your thread alive despite numerous complaints about "language" and the length of a thread that has no MB concepts or support. So many complaints that I've tried to edit BEFORE the emails. Evading the language filter by adding ** or $#@ does not make the words acceptable as we all know the intention.

I have defended this thread (and the other one) as an escape from the tension we all experience while on this rollercoaster. And I occasionally DO see MB concepts being used.

I am not trying, in any manner, to hassle anyone here or pick on any particular poster or thread. If you want this thread to stay alive, please help by monitoring yourselves.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Point taken--again. I usually have a potty mouth--so I apologize.

We know you have a job to do. And thank you for defending us. As Attorney General, I accept this somewhat legitimate complaint on behalf of Idiotville. I do believe we can have an out of court settlement, however. The language? I will ensure all Idiotians will contain themselves. Myself, being P.E.#1. However, we do not accept the fact that MB principles are not being used. They are, but in a stressless environment.

We would ask any "lurkers" that don't agree with this thread to do one of three things:
1. Quit yer itchin' (the scratches, of course! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> )
2. Feel free to point out why you think what you do.
3. Certainly, feel free to become a citizen of Idiotville. It's a very easy exam.

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Now back to "Idiotville" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">See?!?!?! You do have a sense of huomour!

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I actually had a lot more to say, but...

Oh, BTW...day 3 has started!

And, ran into OW today, almost literally. I guess brown got thru to her though: I was a zombie after an ee really, really p'd me off. (I mean, the "I-want-to-hurt-you-kinda-p'o'd-off.") I had to go on the other side of my area to deliver something, and who's standing there with the person I needed to speak with? Yup. OW. And, she literally slithered her way out of that office--no eye contact from me, no recognition. I was kinda proud of myself.

Only in the beginning do I think I really was in the "fog"; HOWEVER, by communicating with brown and coming to some of my own conclusions, I think I am seeing her for what she really is: a self-righteous, very lost, pathetic girl who was looking for a gullible man that she could use. And I was all for it. What a zopniking anus exit. And for now, I'll leave it at that.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Oh, BTW...day 3 has started!
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Liny, I only had a second this morning. Going to the MSU game. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> I only wanted to check to see how you did and make sure Robby wasn't aggrevating the mods. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

I'm so pleased to see you not only made it through day two, but you are on your way to day 3. Keep it up. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

For the rest of Idiotville, have an EDIT free day. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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Yay LINY! Day 3.

Go, LINY, Go.

Morning Idiots - let's all see if we can make it another day without Justuss having to visit. She is busy enough on the mean threads.

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Good Morning Idiotville!!!

I missed cross-dressing this Tuesday...

Let's see if my cheerleader outfit still fits!!

Way to go Liny, way to go!!

clap clap!!!

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Mornin Y'all!

Liny - congrats on day two, and good luck with day 3 - we're all pullin for you, and prayin, and we know you can do it - Yes You Can!! (In my best "Bob the Builder" voice, of course) PS - your description of this thread (and the Jelly!) was awesome - and, you've hit the nail on the head, trying to "define" us, we're not a bunch of initials here, we're just people, trying to help other people through what may be the worse times they'll ever go through in this life...prayers for your continued success, buddy!

Robby - I think the edits took us all by surprise, but at least Justuss was thoughtful enough to tell us why the edits were being done, and Justuss did say that he/she is defending us and "DO see" MB concepts being used. I know you've had a really rough week...prayers to you - my heart really goes out, cuz I thought your "day" would come, and the W would change her mind, like she's done a couple of times before, and keep pushing the date out, until she finally decides to stay. So, you haven't said, are you continuing with Plan A at this time, or are you moving to B? What DOES the future hold for you - is she willing to take a look at the relationship now, or is she just washing her hands of the whole thing?

PS - always gotta ask, How's that baby bear doin?

Brown - sorry to hear about the computer, but, I'm glad to see you finally got here to visit for a minute or two! {{Brown}}

KY (& ST)- is that tailgaiting party today? Have a great time, and for the love of chocolate, you are taking some, right? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> OK, you guys be safe, dress warm, good luck to your team, and much love to you!

NG - how is it in the lone-star state today? I know at you aren't seeing snow or even really cold weather, but, well, just thought I'd ask. How's Nio been the last few days? prayers for you that he's coming around!

Starz - am glad you're feeling better, now that you have the meeting with SH planned - praying you'll have a warmer weekend than usual!

Weaver - you're not snowed in today, are you? Sorry 'bout all the white stuff, and though I don't know why, I'll apologize for not understanding getting snow this early in the year, to be quite honest, I really feel sorry for you guys, though I like the cooler weather, and yah, it's nice to put a coat and sweaters on for a little while, I can't imagine being bundled up and cooped up for 5 or 6 months, I'm afraid I'd go even more crazy than I already am. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> But, then again, I guess it's somewhat comparable to our rainy hurricaney weather, huh? You're either cooped in the summer down here, or cooped in the winter up there...guess we're not so different after all, huh? OK, well, try to enjoy it for me, 'k?

Believer - Wow! you're up early - is the sun even up yet? I was almost always up this early when I was in Cali, but that was cuz I was still on FL time, then, about the time I'd leave, I'd get use to the time difference, and by the time I was back in FL, I'd sleep til almost noon, thinking Well, it's only about 6, right?! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> Oh well, those were the days! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />


RH & Onlywords - didn't wanna leave you guys out, how's it today?

DipiT - hey - are you surviving? Is eyechart being any nicer?

KiwiJ - mornin!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> did ya sleep well? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

TummyTuck - Nighty Night!

Bob Pure, TR, GC, (UGH please tell me I didn't leave anybody out) Good Morning - hope your weekend is a great one!

OK, well, it was about 9am when I started this, but, 2 phone interruptions later, and well, it's almost 10 - SO,

to the rest of the lurkers, et al, Mornin, see y'all later.

PS - Hi Justuss!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" /> I know your lurking <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Happy Weekend!!

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Dear Idiots,
I wanted to take this moment to say "thank you". I came here because Believer said it would be a safe place for me. And she was right. I have felt the {{HUGS}} of encouragement, support, love, respect, and of course senses of humor (except my LINY).

I feel "we" (IDIOTS) are only trying to keep it real and let us deal. Anyone that could/would complain about people - who are re-building their lives and finding some where to start (Idiotville) - should try it. It has helped to laugh and not talk about just the "A" and the "M" and the "OW/OM" and "WS/BS". I can come here and I know that my fellow Idiots are here for the same reason (we all know why) and it is safe.

Well, I may have broken rules in my life too and I may have made my own mistakes too. But it has been no mistake that I am an Idiot.

Thanks,
Ever so Sincerely,

Brown

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Just for the record.....I have been lurking in this thread.....

AND I THINK "IDIOTVILLE" IS GREAT!

We often forget about how healing humor can be. And often I find myself here just smiling at the lightheartedness that you all keep. The weight of MB can sometimes be overwhelming.

So chalk one up on the board for keeping this thread <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Have fun, and maybe someday I can be an Idiot, too! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

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Brown - that was beautiful - you are such a special person, sorry it's under these circumstances, but I'm so glad you are here, and I've gotten a chance to call you friend!

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L.I.T. - thanks for the vote of confidence - you are welcome to join in anytime - new residents are moving in daily, and, if you've been lurking, you probably already know the requirements! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Anyway, thanks for the vote - you are welcome here anytime!!

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YL {{{SMILES & HUGS}}} to you this fine morning. And thank you (blushing) friend.

Weren't you asking about the AD's ????

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Yup, that was me...Liny answered and basically said he felt responsible for you going back on them, but I was wondering if you really felt the same way, or was your system not adjusting well to just dropping them...

edited to add - You're Welcome!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

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I've been off them since Feb. My system was well clear of any of the Wellbrutrin. I did take a Xanax or two over these last few months. But my T had me ween(sp?) off them, you can't from 300 mg a day to nothing. So it was 1 every other day to 2 ever other day etc. until you get to a week apart. It only takes about 3 weeks for them to be out of your system totally.

I felt good that when all the stuff hit the fan, I was handling it and not on AD's. It was all me! It felt good that I was so "strong". LINY did not "force" me back on them (hehehe). He certainly didn't help either (hehehe). But I decided I would be better to be able to think clearer under the "new" circumstances - I already know how well they help (from after my breakdown). So, back on the AD's for a little while.

Oh don't come off them without advice from your Dr or T. I did ask my T 1st b/c I didn't want to be on them for the rest of my life.

I'm hanging in there and I still go to T every other week (talk therapy helps too!). And oh course "type therapy" really helps.

{{YL}}

Brown

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by YL:
<strong> Mornin Y'all!

Robby - ...prayers to you - my heart really goes out, cuz I thought your "day" would come, and the W would change her mind, like she's done a couple of times before, and keep pushing the date out, until she finally decides to stay. So, you haven't said, are you continuing with Plan A at this time, or are you moving to B? What DOES the future hold for you - is she willing to take a look at the relationship now, or is she just washing her hands of the whole thing?

PS - always gotta ask, How's that baby bear doin?

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yeah, she moved out Sunday. I helped and something really strange happened. My BIL went out of his way to invite me to go get wings and beer afterwards. We used to be really close friends. He told me that he really respected that I helped W move. Said that he wouldn't have done it and doesn't know anyone who would. He went on to say that he missed our friendship and wanted to be close again. He was mad at me for a little bit but also knows other things that were wrong with the M.

It lifted such a huge burden off of my shoulders… I had to look all around the bar to keep from bawling!

I don’t really know what the future holds. I know what I hope and pray for, but that may not happen. I don’t think she’s even had time to reflect on the relationship yet. And if she has, wouldn’t reverse course this soon.

I’m still in plan A. Still in IC. Gonna start reading the 5 love languages book today. Maybe I’ll get a nugget or two of info there! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Baby bear is GREAT!! Got 4 shots yesterday, barely cried at all! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Thanks for asking!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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