Asia checking in <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> . My kids and I have been invited to my American friend's Thanksgiving dinner tomorrow. It's just a small family affair with us as the only guests plus a visiting relative. She insists that Thanksgiving is not about gifts and that I am not to bring anything. I understand the sentiment so I will take some wine or something. Is that the right thing to do or should I be gift-hunting like mad tomorrow?

Believer: Got it. Don't need any issues like what happened in Wisconsin last week.

hunting incident

One nice thing, having my own farm, I can allow hunting or not which helps me to know who's there or not. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

TT - Wine would be a nice thing to bring. No gifts though.

RH- I think the problem started because one hunter was on private property! But there has to be more to the story than we've found out about. Where's our anger management specialist?

"Good" Mornin' Idiotville. Check the time of the last post I had, look at this one, subtract two hours...well, ya know where I'm goin.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Why do you tolerat ethe thiungs in yourlife that are contributing only to your misery ?

* Job - you are QUITE EVIDENTLY smart and presentable, get a new job FFS
* Sons - present diary of unacceptable behaviours from them, ask for an improvement plan from them. Just to see what they say
* Gambling - I am no expert but I DO know addictions are fueled by stress - mebbe the above will help you deal with this
* EA - see job change</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Job: thanks, but, no degree, no job. Not for the $$ I make now. (Degree is just more "unfinished business" to take care of in the next few years.) I have thought about the new job thingy. AIMOF, a few years back, I did leave my current employer as I did feel like I wasn't getting anywhere and getting stepped on, but that job left me with bank mergers, one right after another, and they moved their ops to CA--was offered a position, but not about to uproot family at the time (we had already done that for a year down by FM.)

Sons: I had actually written a Lease Agreement, but never showed it to brown and never gave it to them. I think your right, mate. (PS Funny (and not haha that their friend can come up with the rent, albeit a week late (who cares at this point) but they can't.)

Gambling: It simply comes down to: Do I want to be married or not? Regardless if it's a disease or disorder or whatever, I had to stop and continue to remain sober. Going well with that one.

EA: You're right again. That would resolve a bunch of things for brown. But brown would still work there. Last night brown was having a tough time dealing. I tried to console her; listen; reassure her; etc. It's something that will take time for her to heal, at her own pace. She still doesn't know what the OW looks like and due to her own security issues (which this obviously did not help, and I'm not trying to sound condescending), it eats at her daily, regardless of the trust and reassurance and safe enivironment I'm trying to create.

{sigh}

Actually, make that subtract three hours by the time the post went up. My D is NOT cooperating with taking her supps. AAARRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

{believer}
{mayor}
{RH}
{tt}

Agree: wine would be a very nice and approrpiate gesture.

I think you should take starz with you, btw!!!!

LINY -

Your boys will grow more responsible, and get to the point where you enjoy them. It just takes time. HOWEVER, they should respect the rules of the house.

Try the meeting thing. We sat down and everyone wrote down their grievances and we discussed them. It seemed to help, because they didn't like family meetings, so they straightened up some.

Congrats on the G thing. I still wish you would get into a support group. (Besides Idiotville)

Thanks folks, wine it will be. I cannot begin to contemplate catching up on about 6 pages of Idiotville. It's too late in Hong Kong. Hope you are all keeping well. Night night. TT

Thanks folks, wine it will be. I cannot begin to contemplate catching up on about 6 pages of Idiotville. It's too late in Hong Kong. Hope you are all keeping well. Night night. TT

Is there an echo in here? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

{{{{{Liny & Brown}}}}}

Liny,

What industry are you in?

Thanks for the kind words yesterday! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

LINY, regarding your boys try this:

Snak a pail of warm water into their bedroomsas they sleep.

Slide one hand into the pail and leave it for a few minutes.

This is GUARANTEED to make a person take a leak in their sleep.

Sit back and snigger and see if said son says anything to you about it.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Yeah its cruel, but so is treating your home like a flop house <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

You have some issues going on there mate.

Q. Where do you start eating an elephant ?
A. Anywhere but SOMEWHERE - one bite at a time !

Fix your job or your sons and other goodness will follow IME. You are reeling from the multi-frontal assault right now. Fix SOMETHING definitively matey.

See Peps 'conflict avoidance' thread.

{{{manly hugs}}}

my H and son are pheasant hunting right now, did you really HAVE to post that story about the hunting incident!!!!! ugh!!

Robby, I believe RIF is having some R&R, i think that means he got to go home, right?? not sure, but i do recall him saying something about some R&R coming up.

Happy Thanksgiving all you idiots, i don't post here often, i read some of it, it's IMPOSSIBLE to keep up!!!!

Hi, FL!!

Okay, regulars: Must run to town to pick up rolls from bakery, medicine from drugstore, and other things like mail package with baby blanket I made to a cousin who's about to be a grandma for the 1st time. Will see you guys later - chicken and dressing and a snowflake salad to make - will check in acouple of hours from now.

Bob- I'm so jealous!! In several different ways <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/blush.gif" /> Wish I were flying to the Keys right now. Wow.

I will be around off and on today and tomorrow. Then going to hill country on Fri for last trip to deer camp. (At least last trip this year. Don't know what will happen in my life between now and next year.)

See ya in a couple of hours!!

FL: Sorry about the link; your guys hunting pheasant should be ok. So few people hunt pheasant anymore. About the link, just goes to show there are idiots all over (didn't mean to imply your guys were idiots). Thanks for dropping by, you're welcome here anytime.

Starz: Snowflake salad? That sounds interesting. Good luck at deer camp, and keep your head up we're here for you.

Edited to remove my foot from my mouth <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

<small>[ November 24, 2004, 09:22 AM: Message edited by: Recovering H ]</small>

Bob- I'm so jealous!! In several different ways Wish I were flying to the Keys right now. Wow.


Starz I am so blessed I feel bad posting about it sometimes. *blush*

I can't believe how our lives have transformed in four/five months.

And yes we LOVE the keys at Christmas !

* heres the secret - I booked in , like, March so got flights for CENTS and we get a BIIIIG discount offa the accommodation as we stay wich Chuck and Susan every year.

Its a lovely part of America, and a lovely accommodation. I get to learn so many different people's stories staying there - the retired couple from Hells Kitchen, NY; the Mexican immigrants from Chicago; the Artist from SF, the ex-member of Strawberry Alarm Clock etc etc.

Sitting on the dock watching dolphins jump, and my kids play listening to different people's outworkings of the American dream...what a wonderful privileged Christmas that is.

And I know it.

And this year I'll go with my Baby who loves me TRULY and whom I love TRULY and the kids will have PROPERLY INTERACTING parents this year too.

See why I'm a little guilty to post ??

All blessings starz.

<small>[ November 24, 2004, 09:19 AM: Message edited by: Bob Pure ]</small>

Now, bob, who the heck is gonna know Strawberry Alarm Clock, 'cept maybe me and de?!?!?

Bob, you had me laughing out loud--my D already thinks I'm crazy--think I just confirm that to her everytime I'm in Idiotville!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">What industry are you in?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">So, not only do you think I'm not funny, you ignore me too!!
Can't say specifically, but I'm a civil servant. I'll leave it at that for now.

I missed some hugs earlier:
{{{bob}}} (Or do I need an appointment cause ya got squid hanging all over ya!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> )
{{{believer}}} Been delaying a sit-down for awhile. Actually, not me, my sons. Wondering...Would it be a good idea after T dinner? This way, they'll be so stuffed...maybe give 'em a beer...hmm...what do you guys think?
{{{FL}}}!!!!!!! We miss you!

Dang....I know I'm missing someone.

PS already posted to Avoiding Conflict....and Bob, surprised you of all people did not pick up on my "humour." (What was the thread...now, what was my post? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> )

If I don't get to everyone later, have a wonderful, peaceful, and blessed Thanksgiving!!!!!

{{{{Idiotville}}}}

We are too obscure in humour !

OF COURSE I noticed you avoided the conflict of even saying you avoided conflict by changing the topic !!!!!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

That why I posted my " butts kicked" line !

We are too wierd or subtle even for each other LOL ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Squids not all soppy/teenaged crush all the time. She's ostly very measured but she takes me with harsh and desperate intent when the need overtakes her. Thank God ! LOL !

LMAO/ROFL!!!! You should see my D's expression!!! Tears are coming!!!!

[censored]!!! HA! Now there's a word I like but seldom use!!! (OK OK...don't misconstrue or look into that sentence too much, Idiots!)

Bloody, too. Wonder why that's never edited or bleeped etc but we all know what it means. No more zopniking. Bloody it is!

Now, bloody [censored]. Could be painful in more than one way! Boy, do I need some sleep!

As an englishman I can get away with shouting " [censored]!" or " bollocks" in neiman marcus without so much as a strange look from the shoppers !
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by LINY:
<strong>
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">What industry are you in?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">So, not only do you think I'm not funny, you ignore me too!!

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well, so!! If you were funny I wouldn't fall asleep reading your posts!! j/k

Sorry, I must have missed your extremely vague industry catergorizing in the past! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Civil Servant on the night shift?

Hmmm..

I know!!

Bus Driver!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

The wheels on the bus go 'round & 'round!!!