did you see my post?

Yes my dear. Delete that picture. Ask your husband to post here. We can help him.

I-ville - Where's our exorcist? We need to get rid of FL's guilt, so that she can take care of her husband and be his helpmate.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i have to guess, H saw it. he is not home now, he had a late assignment. when we talked on the phone late in the afternoon, when i had asked him if he was ok cuz he sounded bad he said he was having a hard afternoon, then he asked if i could stay home in the morning, after the kids were at school, so we can talk. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">FL T2M - OK, calm down... this is a great opportunity for you to SHOW your H that you are changing and working on the M with him.... You must be totally open and honest with him and resist the urge to be defensive...

You can do this... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

first, i have NO desire to be defensive, i just feel sad to think of how he must of felt when he saw it. the question is, do i tell him i know what happened? do i wait until the morning after the kids go to school and let him bring it up?

i do know one thing for sure i am NOT going to let my needs over shadow his!! before i discovered he was in a bad mood, i told him i had been in a slightly bad mood, he asked why, i said somedays it is harder to deal with knowledge of all the damage i have caused. i told him i knew i was doing the right things now and that i was trying to make ammends, but sometimes it is just hard. i then told him my plan of enticing him to go to bed with me so i could give him a back rub and whatever else he may want. it was his reaction to that which clued me into the fact that he was not happy. this all occured on the phone, shortly after i posted my plan here.

i must say, i was so proud of myself for feeling needy and realizing the best thing to do was to give (as opposed to getting a candy bar, no help from jelly there!!!). now i realize i cannot give in the way i was hoping too but i know i can still give by listening to him and understanding his pain.

i can't say i'm in any kind of panic mode, i'm just slightly pissed at myself and sad about his hurt.

and yes, i have deleted the bookmark to the OM's photo page <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> i just wish i would of realized it was there before and deleted it a long time ago

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> first, i have NO desire to be defensive, i just feel sad to think of how he must of felt when he saw it. the question is, do i tell him i know what happened? do i wait until the morning after the kids go to school and let him bring it up? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">So tell him that you feel very sad that your actions hurt him, and that you are very sorry... again, this will SHOW him that you are working on regaining his trust...

What's done is done... but you can still control what your actions are for today... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

RIF - Are you still here?

yes i know, i can still control my actions for today, and i will tell him i am sorry and sad that he is hurting, and i will listen to him, to whatever he needs to say. and i will still give him a backrub if he wants one.

i'm thinking i need to lighten up here in idiotville if i don't want to be permanately kicked out, huh??

p.s. believer, H does not want to post here although he is ok with me posting here.

No sweetie - you can never be kicked out of Idiotville, we love you too much.

Hey I'm still here...

RIF -

I know that we are not supposed to bring up unpleasant subjects here. But this has been bothering me all day long.

In the news today, I read about a captain that was pursuing a Iraqi driver of some terrorist or something. The Americans shot at the car, and when stopped, the medic pulled the driver out. The driver's skull had been shattered, but he was still alive.

The captain (he said he was doing the humanitarian thing) shot him in the base of the skull to put him out of his misery.

Now this captain is being court martialed.

I work at a military installation and have read the Geneva Conventions. But I can really identify with this captain. I am having a hard time thinking he did the wrong thing.

FL, I am so sorry that you and your H are having a bad time. Being there to listen and to continue showing him through your actions is all you can do. I will pray for you this evening.

Evening/morning RIF. Just about time for you eh? All packed yet? Seriously, my sincerest wishes for peace, love and joy through your leave and Christmas. May we all have peace in the coming year. ((((RIF))) Enjoy your family, you certainly have earned it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Hey Believer - It's really hard for me to say what was right what was wrong... as I wasn't there... I do know that all of our training teaches us that once an enemy combatant is down and becomes a POW, that his status changes and we must do everything that we can to protect them...

I guess that if I were in a situation like that, I'd probably just leave the guy there to die and contiue with my mission... Hard call... and I'm sure that there will be many Monday morning quarterbacks on this one...

Hey FF - I'm still packing... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> I'm ready for a break... thanks for the good wishes...

RIF - Thanks for the reply. This has been haunting me all day. I feel bad about the horrible choices that our troops have to make.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by kyellow4:
<strong> Kimmy you are exactly right, I was all ready missing you guys, but the call for sure did it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">already?

** ppsst **

It's ONE word! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

RIF, I feel terrible about the ethical problems our soldiers face.

But the Iraq war (which I distinguish completely from the effort in Afghanistan) is the first conflict in my lifetime involving Americans where frequent and serious human rights questions have arisen. Course, it's also the largest conflict in my lifetime (I was just a baby during the last days of the Vietnam War).

I'm very unhappy that when problems relating to human rights arise, the full burden of responsibility is placed on the shoulders of our enlisted men and women.

No civilians seem to be held accountable these days.

GC

Good morning I-Ville!!! How's everyone doing this morning??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

1 more day and I'm outta here!!!!

Busy but cool RIF!

Unloaded a lot of baggage this week and looking forward to a happy Christmas !!

I can;t say how happy I am you are going home 2morrow ! I hope we don;t hear from you for 15 days my friend !!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Jelly: No, I'm not mad at you. In fact, I think I enjoyed picking on you too much. It seems you and my W are on the same cycle (and no not motor). And I seem to get in trouble more at that time than any other. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> Oh well.

FL: Welcome to I-ville! and since Robby hasn't officially accepted you at your job, then let me welcome you as the new Math Teacher for I-ville. And about bringing us down? Don't worry about it, that's what we're here for, to prop each other up and support each other AND to have some light hearted fun to take the edge off all the A cr*p. (spelled that way for Justuss). <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

RIF: Have a safe trip home and check in AFTER you get back, you don't need to post to us how great your R&R is (unless you want to). And thanks again dude.

Believer: I can sympathize with your thoughts on how some of our soldiers have to deal with field activities. It's a SHAME that there is so much Monday morning quarterbacking here in the old USofA. Having a farm, you sometimes have to do things like that (kill an animal when you don't want to). People at work get grossed out by that and give me grief (I usually don't talk about it anymore), but I know what you mean. And I'm sure it wasn't easy for that soldier to do what he did, he probably thought if it was me, what would I want the other guy to do. Life can be cruel at times.

Morning Hugs to Idiotville residents and guests!

{{{{{I-ville residents/guests}}}}}

RH

Good Morning Idiotville!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

RIF,

Just a friendly reminder: Your R&R entitles you to a break from the army, not Idiotville! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Jelly !!!

Okay, Robby, that is for sure the funniest thing ever. I'm almost crying, lmTao!!!!!!!!!

I think you and RH are very cute how you are talking to me, like I'm here, but I'm not!!!!


I'm not back!!!!!!!!!! Have a great day everybody.

Love you <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />