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#1221639 12/22/04 08:53 AM
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Liny !! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

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I dont know if you wnat to talk about it or not--tough--im posting this! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

OK..here's my take (and I "think" from some others.) I know its been a tough time the past few months with your job sit. I know you've said this is one of mrs. mayor's concerns, ens, whatever. So far so good? if so, NOT understanding why she is choosing NOT to be in the process of not "helping" you find a job, but, supporting you, offering opinions/advice/etc. Got me? This has NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING IN LOVE WITH YOU! I'm confused over what position she is coming from. (Admittedly, dont know too much of your WW's background.) Don't have to in this PARTICULAR situation though. you BOTH have a child. Does she forget that? Does she not want her child to have a DAD daily, not just on the weekends or even less time? And how much of the A is causing her to make decisions or be indecisive?

THIS IS NOT A NONCHALANT DECISION like should I wear the elf suit, the mauve tight-fitting dress or the reindeer antlers (and nothing else)! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> (Was getting too heavy there!)

You're in a tough postion robby. i really dont have advice. just dont want to see you (and her--regardless if either one of you "think" so, you both have this decision to make) make a decision to fill one need, but then chip away at a few others.

We'll be praying for you--whichever way it is (and i really don't know) you *will* know if it is the right one. Pray about it, robby. (Will mrs. mayor pray with you at least? At the very least for this one decision to make?)


Oh, keep forgetting to ask: HOw's your Yankee arctic air down there? (And this coming from a yankee traitor!)

I remember Bob posting just before he left about packing some warm clothes--hope they did! Poor bob and squid and minnows!

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Not going to break the rule and edit...but, yes, I know this job hasn't been offered yet. But her avoidance is NOT helping anything. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

#1221642 12/22/04 09:20 AM
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Robby--the favor is returned! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/blush.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

#1221643 12/22/04 09:22 AM
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Morning! Yay 4 hours sleep. A record.

I'm cooking! Special of the days are on the front of the menu. Can you see them?

Coffee anyone?

#1221644 12/22/04 09:25 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by LINY:
<strong> dont know too much of your WW's background.

And how much of the A is causing her to make decisions or be indecisive?

Oh, keep forgetting to ask: HOw's your Yankee arctic air down there? (And this coming from a yankee traitor!)

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Three quick things, then I have an interview for a local job at 11. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

W was a WW, but then a BW. WW with a gf so "that is different", NOT!!

I go back and forth between thinking my A was the "final straw" or just being used as an excuse. Just take my word for it. I can't explain my W in such a short amount of time. I DO know that she says she's no longer hurt or angry, which means she is still hurt and angry! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Don't worry about Bob, et all... Winter is over in FL!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> It'll be 78 where he is today. They may get some rain over the next few days but I'm sure they'll find something to do indoors!!!

63 here now. High will be 75!!

Gonna have to turn on the A/C in the car!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

#1221645 12/22/04 09:28 AM
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Good luck!!!!

We'll chat more later...get your mail?

#1221646 12/22/04 09:35 AM
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Got it! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

One quick thing about that...

Everybody is not gonna like everybody. That would be boring and against human nature.

Take Rush Limbaugh and Howard Stern. Both are wildly successful and widely hated at the same time. They calculate HOW to remain so but for most it's natural. Look at the recent elections. Very divisive. Strong feelings on both sides. I take those who disagree with me as a challenge and a compliment!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

#1221647 12/22/04 09:42 AM
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'morning...mumble, mumble, yawn... I'll take that coffee please! Not a breakfast person myself.

Robby good luck on the local interview. Hope you get a job that keeps you near your S.

Liny, yes I noticed that thread and just figured it was poking some fun. But hey! we wuvs each other here in Iville right! We give support along with the funnies. Yes, I know my so called jokes werent even up to your level but I am desperate! (same thing I told my H last night but still no ...ahem..you know)Boy I hope the ice breaks soon. How long is a gal supposed to wait?

FA-A, haven't read your thread today. What happened with exposure yesterday?

Steve, why are you giving up? Are you ok?

#1221648 12/22/04 09:43 AM
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Jelly must be "chopping wood"...

No wonder she calls her H Shivering Timbers!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

#1221649 12/22/04 09:48 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Everybody is not gonna like everybody. That would be boring and against human nature.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I agree. However, I think there is more to it. I always talk about me being "above it all", etc, during and shortly after the A. And especially with regards to the gambling. I look up to these three--I really do. Yes, we've had our spats, and falling out. Like it was told to me--there's no face, just words--and there's no use for it. The inference being me. I think for a mamosecond, they think sometimes they are above it--the know all, end all. NOT! They are human, flesh and blood. *THEY* are controlling the words on the computer--not some robot. I have more, but why bore everyone!
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />

Re: Idiotville? If there wasn't an Idiotville, I probably would not be posting and a Triple L: "life-long lurker". This is a safe place: where yes, we use MB principles, but, anything goes. I don't have to worry (necessarily ) of being PC--and I almost think it's unwanted here. It's an escape (don't like using that word anymmore--maybe "break" is better) from the pain of it all. And even still, we show our pain. Not just in the "ordinary" way like on a "regular" thread.

{Stepping off the soap box}

#1221650 12/22/04 09:51 AM
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See? You just proved my "anything goes" rule robby!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Hey ff! (Pretty sad when I'm awake before you! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> )

#1221651 12/22/04 09:56 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by faithful follower:
<strong>Robby good luck on the local interview. Hope you get a job that keeps you near your S.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Thanks!!

It would still be a tough decision. This interview is for a "regular" job not a SUPERFLY YOU 'DA MAN! job!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

I could just have more kids!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

#1221652 12/22/04 09:57 AM
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Extra large mug with 2 handles for FF. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
FF- Was not able to reach anyone! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

Christmas is a horrible time to get anything rolling. Everyone is off! Did research the Canadian military regulations online to see how best to phrase a letter to the CO.

If you feel like going back to sleep, read my last post on my 911 OW phone # thread. (Very long post) I would love to hear your thoughts. I was very careful not to agree to not contact OW agian. Which of course is what WH would like. I also told WH that I was going to be staying in MQs around the corner of OW. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> I do have friends that live there. Just not close enough for me to stay with. But, a little paranoia should be a cold splash of water on their PA.

Also checking on housing regs to see about a complaint regarding her status with her new roommate and things. Not allowed as far as I can tell.

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Hey Robby, I think you da man! Don't need a job to prove that! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

#1221654 12/22/04 09:59 AM
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Liny, since you are in a serious mood this am, do you have a minute?

#1221655 12/22/04 10:07 AM
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What's up, ff?

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Well, since I have to get my kids up I will just go ahead and put it out there. I hope somebody reads it.

I'm tired. This is so hard some days. I work, come home, fix dinner, clean up, feed my DS, etc. My house is usually a wreck and I am always behind. My H for the most part sits on his behind when he is home. He works 6 days a week and the 6th day is a 2nd job we don't really need. Yes the cash is nice but truly I need help! Very little gets done and I spend way too much time alone with my kids. My DS is is getting to big and heavy for me to be doing all this by myself. I take him shopping with me, I take him everywhere with me. My DD is almost 12 and without her I swear I wouldn't survive but I can't put this on a 12 year old! Last night my H went to hang out with his friend that enabled his A. Big triggers for me but I handled it well. However, he comes home and by the time I get the kids to bed he is asleep on the couch again! Ever since my dday he has slept on the couch with the dog at least 1/2 the time. No SF yet and it has been 5 weeks since dday. I have been doing good not LBing him and counseling is going well, but these other issues don't change.

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I feel for you, ff. Really. Empathy would be a good word. You see, I played Mr. mom for many years. To make a long story short (if you don't know our background): brown was in a deep depression for many years until she had a nervous breakdown. I didn't have a choice but to take care of the kids. Everything! But I didn't understand everything about depression. Brown kept saying, "It's me. It's not you." But I'm a man, baby! And i took it all personally. And it became resentment towards brown. And when brown finally got better, I just used it as an excuse to escape. (I'm a very good escape artist--on my way of breaking that mold.) Anyway, back to you. I point all of this out as I only realize and understand now of what my Aunt was trying to tell me when she said, "Marriage is never 50/50. But you better make sure it always equals 100%."

You *need* mr. ff's help. Have you sat down with him and really discussed this? It's more than an EN--this is your health at risk.

You could have described me and brown's sit with the above (with a few differences, but same outcome.)

I can't emphasize enough that you need to sit down with him and discuss it. Not in an angry, attacking way; just discuss it presenting the facts.

I hope this helps a little! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

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You know you are right Liny. It is my health. I look in the mirror and the stress is aging me fast. Couple that with him choosing two OW that are younger and prettier than me and I say yuck when I look at the effect this is all having on me. I think I have learned enough lately to be able to sit down and talk calmly with him. He sees what it is doing to me, how many accidents I have around the house because I am tired, distracted and stressed. It is not good. Yes, this is beyond my EN's, though those are not being met either. I need to figure out a non LB non DJ way of telling him that I need him.

Thanks for listening. <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" />

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