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#1222479 12/31/04 03:48 PM
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Am I an idiot, or what?!?!?!?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Sorry, Liny. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">?????????

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"it" is *THE* thread that you can't keep away from. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

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#1222481 12/31/04 03:52 PM
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Oh....Like I said, though....I'm done. Like I told Bob, probably about two months ago:
He obviously needs help in one way or another.

Anything else I post will be attacking, WHICH I WILL NOT DO, so, I'm done!

Have a great first day of 2005 .!

<small>[ January 04, 2005, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: Justuss ]</small>

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Sorry for "minimising" your problems with your boys. I know what it's like to live with that sort of behaviour and it's very trying, to say the least.

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Dredging up my memories of being a semi-slacker as a teenager.

I remember doing a few stupid things and my Dad was the BEST at dealing with them. He didn't snarl or yell or threaten or anything. He'd just get very quiet and sadly tell me how disappointed he was by my decision.

I'd be all geared up to argue or defend myself and it'd completely deflate me. I was a pretty big softie as rebellion went. Perhaps this won't work as well on your son. But if it's important, the method might be worth a shot.

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You didn't Jen...just EXTREMELY frustrating...they are at a point where they are the biggest problem in our M. I'm not deflecting here either. It's sad but very true. They are bringing us down--emotionally, financially...it's truly sad what the outcome is playing out to be.

Oh well...brown and I have a plan of action to plan out over the extended weekend.

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Yep, Dobie, that's how my father was. Although he blew a valve sometimes!!!!!

I certainly don't recommend Bob's method even though it worked on him.

Jen

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">He'd just get very quiet and sadly tell me how disappointed he was by my decision.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Dobie, we're beyond that, I'm afraid. Bob's "method" is looking more and more like a reality--not even an option. We'll see what we can come up with over the weekend though.

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I know exactly what you mean about the stress in the marriage (added stress which none of us needs right now).

I tend to take my son's side and also do very stupid things like washing his dishes before Rob gets home so we don't have a scene. Every time Rob brings up his "slackerness" I say that he'll get better and he WILL work eventually etc and then we have a fight about it all, or I change the subject so we don't have to face it or discuss it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

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#1222488 12/31/04 04:03 PM
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OK...signing off for now!

#1222489 12/31/04 04:07 PM
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Yep, I should go too.

Time to get going with some work around the house. Blecch.

Jen

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Believer: Property Management? Kool. The house from ehll, yeah I know that one.

Almost have the shed done. We have one more side to put on and should get it about 1/2 done tomorrow. Not working the whole day (have to watch my new coach work his magic on New Years Day...that's Coach Saban to you Jets knuckleheads).

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

#1222491 12/31/04 06:20 PM
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oh great---im comming on and evryone is gone... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

hey rH---will be watching also--pnot really a jets fan....this is a giants household....however i really am a steelers fan!!! shhhh dont tell hubby!

#1222492 12/31/04 06:25 PM
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Happy New Years to one and all in and visiting Idiotville!!!!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Robby should be safely off the ground by now and on his way to brrr...Ohio. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It's supposed to hit 60deg tomorrow. Thanks Robby for bringin' some heat up this way.

#1222493 12/31/04 06:32 PM
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Nikko: I won't hold the fact you're a Steelers fan against you. I live in PA but my team is the Dolphins, though the Eagles are a close 2nd. Steerlers? I can take or leave them, doesn't really matter. I'm about 3-4 pages behind trying to get caught up. Will have to stop shortly to take a shower. We're (the W & I) supposed to watch Spiderman2 in a bit.

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Welcome Nikko, Robby is the Mayor. (Sorry it took so long for me to welcome you as I didn't get on this morning.)

FF: Have you invited your H here (to MB)? I know that helped NOW and my communications. I was just saying to her this morning that she looks so much better now than she did before and that she "looked happy." She said that she felt content now. So that's a good start.

Oops, somehow I forgot to hit the post button and this message didn't get posted.

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Dear Lord - I am 31 pages behind!! Will say hello now and catch up when I have time. Maybe tomorrow.

Well, IB and I went with another couple to Biloxi for 4 days - had a nice time. IB was pleasant, if distant, had a few warm funny moments, everything very "surface" - no depth. He completely avoided my touch - even bumping into each other as we walked. Sat for 2 hours in the theater watching a performance with his hands in his lap. To make sure we didn't make contact, I suppose. But it was more fun than sitting at home not making contact. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

We are supposed to be going to a party tonight. I am dead tired and would rather not, but dare not say so. He thinks I am "no fun any more." So I will go and laugh and smile and be dead on my feet wishing I could go home and to bed. But I guess it will be 1 a.m. before I get to bed.

Ready for a long night. Wonder how he will avoid the kiss at midnight? Hmmmmm.

I really will try to catch up on the thread. But wow! 31 pages!!

In case I don't get to check in again, Happy New Year's, everybody. I am praying for a 180 in 2005. Will pray for all of Idiotville tonight.

Remember, if you drink, don't drive. The Idiotville cops are out in force since the sniper is off duty for the evening.

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LINY: You know what you have to do to solve that sitch. Time for some tough love. You can do it man. Now just do it. Give them a date when they have to move out by and then stick to it unless they come up with the rent. And when they don't, kick their ***** out. They'll respect you for it in the end.

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P.S. - I don't know if you guys know it, but I wear a wig, as I am practically bald. When we came home tonight, I emptied the suitcase and put all the dirty clothes in the washer like a good little housefrau. Real proud of myself. Went looking for my wig to wear to the party tonight. Couldn't find it. Searched everything. Found it in the dryer with all the newly clean clothes. Melted. Now I have no hair to wear Sunday to church or Monday to school. Oh my God.

Well, that was my final idiotic thing for 2004 (I hope). If we had a prize for the top idiot of 2004, would I win? Place? Show?

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i agree---am tough loving my 15 yr old right now---it sucks...but its working.

contribute in a meaningful way or pack up....

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