OK, you don't want to do this privately...not sure why, you want it to be open and honest? Or want everyone to read and become polarized and take sides?

But I think arguing and being offended over and over again on someone elses thread is undermining the support they are receiveing form other posters (and I'm not just referring to you).

My suggestions? If a poster has a problem with something a person writes, and it can't be taken care of in a post or two but becomes a running dialogue between them...start a new thread. Just a suggestion.

But, the problem I have with some of your posts? The broad terms you use that are meant as insinuations, like "MB zealots" and "people who would save their marriage at any cost". I get the message you are not behind MB principles 100%, that's OK, most of us aren't 100%, but it sounds like you look down on people who are here trying to save their M.

That being said, I think you have some very insightful comments! But other times I think you type some things that aren't helpful (and not meant to be helpful) in a knee jerk fashion. All I ask is that you self-edit a bit so that your comments are helpful.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by StillHereMakingIt:
<strong> OK, you don't want to do this privately...not sure why, you want it to be open and honest? Or want everyone to read and become polarized and take sides?

But I think arguing and being offended over and over again on someone elses thread is undermining the support they are receiveing form other posters (and I'm not just referring to you).

My suggestions? If a poster has a problem with something a person writes, and it can't be taken care of in a post or two but becomes a running dialogue between them...start a new thread. Just a suggestion.

But, the problem I have with some of your posts? The broad terms you use that are meant as insinuations, like "MB zealots" and "people who would save their marriage at any cost". I get the message you are not behind MB principles 100%, that's OK, most of us aren't 100%, but it sounds like you look down on people who are here trying to save their M.

That being said, I think you have some very insightful comments! But other times I think you type some things that aren't helpful (and not meant to be helpful) in a knee jerk fashion. All I ask is that you self-edit a bit so that your comments are helpful. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I don't think this will be a problem for me. I will work on it. Please give me recurring feedback if I slip up from time to time. Thanks for the post and recommendations. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Still here making it:

(please excuse my intrusion) but,
First, I applaud you for taking your personal issues off another thread and attempting to deal with them here!
Good Move.

Just curious as too why you don't think YOU can be open & honest on the board.
Isn't that why we're ALL here?

(Guess there may be a few trolls)

I was also confused by your comment over there of not feeling "safe" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> to express yourself.

Don't let anyone intimidate you. We don't know you (or where you are).
You are safe.

Take care.

Sorry, I realize taking a discussion into a private area would cause some questioning about what was discussed (and who...) Taking it to another thread was a better idea, I was afraid of another war starting with back and forth again, and that wasn't my intention.

I do want to let you know that no amount of my writing is not without it's own oersonal angst, and I have to look at why some comments bother me more than others...

And about not feeling safe? Well, not me personally, I generally can take what is dished out (well...no, not really). I have some very personal comments to make to Dad about the "intellectual incompatibility" statement that was made yesterday on the show. And I've gotten to the point I don't want to write ANYTHING that could be the least controversial on their thread because even the smallest details are taken and argued. I didn't want words that I wrote to get batted around and misunderstood. Probably put too much importance on my words...

I will think again about posting on there...and figure out a way I can type it...

First, thanks for responding.

Next, Yes... it can get frustrating when everyone gets as you say "polarized" and every little comment is twisted and dissected to make some "point".
(usually WAAAY off the one intended in the thread).

These "shouting" matches usually solve little as everyone has their own position and NO One really "hears" anyone else.

In addition: (I think most of us Hate to have our own words used against us). That always sucks.

With that said: I'm guilty of getting into them as well...at times. (Try not to very much though).
ITs just sometimes you want to Try and make the other person "get it" ....Ya Know??

However, I usually just jump in and jump out.
Never been involved with one that goes on for pages and pages.

Unfortunately, I think we all knew this issue was explosive ...even BEFORE it went to the Television.
That just through gas on the fire.

But that it the way of these boards. Gotta take the good with the bad.

I suppose it will die down till next Thursday. Stay tuned! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

Lemonman,

You are a WONDERFUL poster...mostly. There have been times your posts have been purposely insulting and that is what I have issues with, but mostly you answer with another viewpoint, a viewpoint that is so very helpful at times.

If everyone answered with praise and support and didn't confront with some of those wise 2X4's or Twyla's fly swatter then the BS's and WS's may not 'get it'. Just don't make your 2X4's out of rail ties...

Please keep posting!

P.S. There have been some threads I've had to stay away from because I don't have anything good to say...have said my peace and am off.

I think I missed something <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> Oh well, I tend to do that when I see an explosion starting up or "poloarized"...I tend to just skip over those threads...

Stillheremakingit...I sent you an email from my mom's email account? Did you get it? I am home now and I believe it is safe to send me mail here at my address, although dad keeps getting into my account...now he says that I have opened up "private" email accounts. WHATEVER...I have a Yahoo IM and MSN IM...he thinks those are email accounts...ROTFLMBO..he OBVIOUSLY knows nothing of the two or what they are for.

I hope that you guys are not upset with ME..I do like both of you tremendously...I do like MOST OF the people on this board, with the exception of a few...but no names mentioned. I have really tried to keep my posts as "non" dramatic as possible...but what can I say...there just seems to be so much darn drama in my life and I feel safe here sharing with MOST people.

And about next Thrusdays show..I do think you will be proud of me...I really stand my ground..I hope they dont edit it out!

Naw, I don't have a problem with anybody on here, just some posts get my hair up.

There are some people I don't post to or read anymore, but mostly because it's the same thing over and over...and no action, but not you Mom...

Why the ire on the board? Not sure.

The more expressive and honest...i.e. people tell much of their story, the more people are attracted. When I would post I would come on with a question or two, tell a bit of my story, then quiet for awhile.

Yours is a story many folks have can follow along, and seems so familiar (at least to me.)

Sent you email, but I'll send it again. Spent the evening thinking about your situation and what I could POSSIBLY say.

I always say "When life hands you lemonman, make lemonmanaid". <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Lemonman, keep posting. Sure you leave a bitter aftertaste, but it's good to get all perspectives.
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MiF

I have added a few more slogans for our lemonman
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• <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Unsweetened lemonman, for all the bitter aftertaste</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">lemonman, that cool refreshing poster</font></li>

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This is meant as no disrespect toward our lemony friend. Just a weak attempt at humor. Keep posting lemonman, it is nice to see all sides of the perspective