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Undo I see you liked the linkin park than?

It's amazing that linkin parks songs are really for expressing peoples anger and sadness but it really hits home in infidelity yet it doesn't mention one word in their songs about infidelity.

I like Don't stay:

Sometimes I need to remember just to breathe
Sometimes I need you to stay away from me
Sometimes I'm in disbelief I didn't know
Somehow I need you to go

Don't stay
Forget our memories
Forget our possibilities
What you were changing me into
Just give me myself back and
Don't stay
Forget our memories
Forget our possibilities
Take all your faithlessness with you
Just give me myself back and
Don't stay

Sometimes I feel like I trusted you too well
Sometimes I just feel like screaming at myself
Sometimes I'm in disbelief I didn't know
Somehow I need to be alone

Don't stay
Forget our memories
Forget our possibilities
What you were changing me into
Just give me myself back and
Don't stay
Forget our memories
Forget our possibilities
Take all your faithlessness with you
Just give me myself back and
Don't stay

I don't need you anymore, I don't want to be ignored
I don't need one more day of you wasting me away
I don't need you anymore, I don't want to be ignored
I don't need one more day of you wasting me away
With no apologies

Don't stay
Forget our memories
Forget our possibilities
What you were changing me into
Just give me myself back and
Don't stay
Forget our memories
Forget our possibilities
Take all your faithlessness with you
Just give me myself back and
Don't stay


I also like somewhere I belong:

(When this began)
I had nothing to say
And I get lost in the nothingness inside of me
(I was confused)
And I let it all out to find
That I'm not the only person with these things in mind
(Inside of me)
But all that they can see the words revealed
Is the only real thing that I've got left to feel
(Nothing to lose)
Just stuck, hollow and alone
And the fault is my own, and the fault is my own

[Chorus]
I wanna heal, I wanna feel what I thought was never real
I wanna let go of the pain I've felt so long
(Erase all the pain till it's gone)
I wanna heal, I wanna feel like I'm close to something real
I wanna find something I've wanted all along
Somewhere I belong

And I've got nothing to say
I can't believe I didn't fall right down on my face
(I was confused)
Looking everywhere only to find
That it's not the way I had imagined it all in my mind
(So what am I)
What do I have but negativity
?Cause I can't justify the way, everyone is looking at me
(Nothing to lose)
Nothing to gain, hollow and alone
And the fault is my own, and the fault is my own

[Repeat Chorus]

I will never know myself until I do this on my own
And I will never feel anything else until my wounds are healed
I will never be anything till I break away from me
I will break away, I'll find myself today

[Repeat Chorus]

I wanna heal, I wanna feel like I'm somewhere I belong
I wanna heal, I wanna feel like I'm somewhere I belong
Somewhere I belong

Lying from you:

When I pretend everything is what I want it to be
I look exactly like what you always wanted to see
When I pretend, I can't forget about the criminal I am
Stealing second after second just cause I know I can but
I can't pretend this is the way it?ll stay I'm just
(Lying to bend the truth)
I can't pretend I'm who you want me to be, so I'm

[Chorus]
(Lying my way from you)
No no turning back now
(I wanna be pushed aside so let me go)
No no turning back now
(Let me take back my life I'd rather be all alone)
No turning back now
(Anywhere on my own cuz I can see)
No no turning back now
(The very worst part of you is me)

I remember what they taught to me
Remember condescending talk for who I ought to be
Remember listening to all of that and this again
So I pretended up a person who was fittin? in
And now you think this person really is me and I'm
(Trying to bend the truth)
Cuz the more I push the more I'm pulling away cuz I'm

[Chorus]
(Lying my way from you)
No no turning back now
(I wanna be pushed aside so let me go)
No no turning back now
(Let me take back my life I'd rather be all alone)
No turning back now
(Anywhere on my own cuz I can see)
No no turning back now
(The very worst part of you)
(The very worst part of you is ME)

This isn't what I wanted to be, I never thought that what I said would
have you running from me
Like This
This isn't what I wanted to be, I never thought that what I said would
have you running from me
Like This
This isn't what I wanted to be, I never thought that what I said would
have you running from me
Like This
This isn't what I wanted to be, I never thought that what I said would
have you running from me
Like This

[Chorus]
(You)
No turning back now
(I wanna be pushed aside so let me go)
No no turning back now
(Let me take back my life I'd rather be all alone)
No turning back now
(Anywhere on my own cuz I can see)
No no turning back now
(The very worst part of you)
(The very worst part of you is me)

Hit the floor:

There are just too many times that people have tried to look inside of me
Wondering what I think of you and I protect you out of courtesy
Too many times that I've held on what I needed to push away
Afraid to say what was on my mind afraid to say what I need to say
Too many things that you said about me when I'm not around
You think having the upper hand means you gotta keep putting me down
But I've had too many standoffs with you it's about as much as I can stand
So I'm waiting until the upper hand is mine

[Chorus]
(One minute you're on top)
Next you're not watch you drop
(Making your heart stop)
Just before you hit the floor
(One minute you're on top)
Next you're not missed a shot
(Making you're heart stop)
You think you've won
(And then its all gone)

So many people like me put so much trust in all your lies
So concerned with what you think to just say what we feel inside
So many people like me walk on eggshells all day long
All I know is that all I want is to feel like I'm not stepped on
There are so many things you say that make me feel you crossed the line
What goes up will surely fall and I'm counting down the time
Cause I've had so many standoffs with you it's about as much as I can stand
So I'm waiting until the upper hand is mine

[Chorus]
(One minute you're on top)
Next you're not watch you drop
(Making your heart stop)
Just before you hit the floor
(One minute you're on top)
Next you're not missed a shot
(Making you're heart stop)
You think you've won
(And then its all gone)
(And then he's all gone)
(And then its all gone)
(And then he's all gone)
(Now it's all gone)

I know I?ll never trust a single thing you say
You knew your lies would divide us but you lied anyway
And all the lies have got you floating up above us all
But what goes up has got to fall

[Chorus]
(One minute you're on top)
Next you're not watch you drop
(Making your heart stop)
Just before you hit the floor
(One minute you're on top)
Next you're not missed a shot
(Making you're heart stop)
You think you've won
(And then its all gone)
(And then he's all gone)
(And then its all gone)
(And then he's all gone)
(Now it's all gone)

Faint:

I am a little bit of loneliness a little bit of disregard
Handful of complaints but I can't help the fact that everybody can see
these scars
I am what I want you to want what I want you to feel
But it's like no matter what I do, I can't convince you, to just believe
this is real
So I let go, watching you, turn your back like you always do
Face away and pretend that I'm not
But I'll be here cause you want what I've got

[Chorus]
(I can't feel the way I did before)
(Don't turn your back on me)
(I won't be ignored)
(Time won't heal this damage anymore)
(Don't turn your back on me)
(I won't be ignored)

I am a little bit insecure a little unconfident
Cause you don't understand I do what I can but sometimes I don't make
sense
I say what you never wanna say but I've never had a doubt
It's like no matter what I do I can't convince you for once just to hear
me out
So I let go watching you turn your back like you always do
Face away and pretend that I'm not
But I'll be here 'cause you?re all that I've got

[Chorus]
(I can't feel the way I did before)
(Don't turn your back on me)
(I won't be ignored)
(Time won't heal this damage anymore)
(Don't turn your back on me)
(I won't be ignored)

(Now)
(Hear me out now)
(You're gonna listen to me, like it or not)
(Right now)
(Hear me out now)
(You're gonna listen to me, like it or not)
(Right now)

(I can't feel the way I did before)
(Don't turn your back on me)
(I won't be ignored)

[Chorus]
(I can't feel the way I did before)
(Don't turn your back on me)
(I won't be ignored)
(Time won't heal this damage anymore)
(Don't turn your back on me)
(I won't be ignored)

[Chorus]
(I can't feel the way I did before)
(Don't turn your back on me)
(I won't be ignored)
(Time won't heal this damage anymore)
(Don't turn your back on me)
(I won't be ignored)

I can't feel
I won't be ignored
Time won't heal
Don't turn your back on me
I won't be ignored

And the last one By myself:

Myself
Myself

What do I do to ignore them behind me
Do I follow my instincts blindly
Do I hide my pride from these bad dreams
And give in to sad thoughts that are maddening
Do I sit here and try to stand it
Or do I try to catch them red-handed
Do I trust some and get fooled by phoniness
Or do I trust nobody and live in loneliness
Because I can't hold on when I'm stretched so thin
I make the right moves but I'm lost within
I put on my daily facade but then
I just end up getting hurt again

By myself (myself)
I ask why
But in my mind I find
I can't rely on myself (myself)
I ask why
But in my mind I find
I cant rely on myself
I cant look around
(Its too much to take in)
I cant hold on
(When im stretched so thin)
I cant slow down
(Watching everything spin)
I cant look past
(Its starting over again)

If I turn my back I'm defenseless
And to go blindly seems senseless
If I hide my pride and let it all go on
Then they'll take from me'till everything is gone
If I let them go I'll be outdone
But if I try to catch them I'll be outrun
If I'm killed by the questions like a cancer
Then I'll be buried in the silence of the answer

By myself (myself)
I ask why
But in my mind I find
I can't rely on myself (myself)
I ask why
But in my mind I find
I cant rely on myself
I cant look around
(Its too much to take in)
I cant hold on
(When im stretched so thin)
I cant slow down
(Watching everything spin)
I cant look past
(Its starting over again)

Dont you(being said repeaditly in the backround)
Dont you (know)
I cant tell you how to make it (go)
No mater what I do, how hard I (try)
I cant seem to convince myself (why)
Im stuck on the outside
Dont you (know)
I cant tell you how to make it (go)
No matter what I do, how hard I (try)
I cant seem to convince myself (why)
Im stuck on the outside
Dont you (know)
I cant tell you how to make it (go)
No matter what I do, how hard I (try)
I cant seem to convince myself (why)
Im stuck on the outside
Dont you (know)
I cant tell you how to make it (go)
No matter what I do, how hard I (try)
I cant seem to convince myself (why)
Im stuck on the outside
Dont you (know)
I cant tell you how to make it (go)
No matter what I do, how hard I (try)
I cant seem to convince myself (why)
Im stuck on the outside
Dont you (know)
I cant tell you how to make it (go)
No matter what I do, how hard I (try)
I cant seem to convince myself (why)
Im stuck on the outside



I know I know that was a lot of songs but hey I think they hit home when it comes to infidelity.

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Fantasic song

Nelly 'over and over'

Quote
Cause its all in my head
I think about it over and over again
I cant keep picturing you with him
And it hurts so bad
(yeah) Cause its all in my head
I think about it over and over again
I replay it over and over again
And i can't take it I cant shake it(NO)

[Nelly]
I can't wait to see you
Wanna see if you still got that look in your eye
That one you had for me before we said our goodbyes
And its a shame that we gotta spend our time being mad About the same things
Over and over again (about the same thing)
Over and over again

Oo but I thinks she leavin
uhh man she's leavin
I dont know wat else to do
(Cant go on not lovin you)


(chorus)
Cause its all in my head
I think about it over and over again
I cant keep picturing you with him
And it hurts so bad
(yeah) cause its all in my head
I think about it over and over again
I replay it over and over again
(yeah) and I can't take it
(yeah)and I can't shake it ( no )

[Nelly]
I remember the day you left
I remember the last breath you took right in front of me
When you said that you would leave
I was too damn stubborn to try to stop you or say anything
But I see clearly now
And this choice I made keeps playin in my head
(Over and over again)
Playin my head (over and over again)

[Nelly]
Oh I thinks shes leavin
Uhh man shes leavin
I dont know wat else to do
(I cant go on not lovin you)

Cause its all in my head
I think about it over and over again
I can't keep picturing you with him
And it hurts so bad
(yeah) cause its all in my head
I think about it over and over again
I replay it over and over again
And I can't take it and I cant shake it(no)

[Nelly]
Now that I realize
That I'm goin down
From all this pain you put me through

[Tim McGraw]
Everytime I close my eyes (wuu wuu)
I lock it down
ooooo I can't go on not lovin you

(repeat chorus 3x)

uh uh uh uh (repeat 4x)

Over and over again
Over and over again
Cause it's all in my head

Also dry your eyes by Streets


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My DS's friend who is a girl (not a girlfriend, if that makes sense), printed me out the lyrics to a song she hears on a Christian radio station she listens to. She says that in part because it has my name in it, she always thinks of me when she hears it. This young woman is a cross between a daughter and a friend to me. We've supported each other through the hard spots in our lives. We've grown so close in the past year.

Caroline

from the album Once Upon A Shattered Life
by Seventh Day Slumber

Where do I begin?
There's so much I want to say to make it easier
Tomorrow's on it's way
Do you believe I want to take your painful memories?
I know you want to run away
I know you can't see tomorrow

Chorus:
Caroline, let me wipe away your tears and give you life,
Make you feel beautiful again
Caroline, don't throw it all away
I'm here tonight to take away your pain.


Yesterday is gone and everything that made you cry has fallen to the ground
I'm here to bring you home, I will always take you back
You haven't let me down
I know you want to run away
I know that you can't see tomorrow


And when you're feeling all alone and you can't go on,
Remember I am here
And when you think you've gone too far,
I'll meet you where you are
My arms are open wide


Grapes are versatile. Grapes can be sour, sweet, sublime as wine and fabulous even when old and dried out.

Me: BS
XCH: Clueless
2-DS: Bigger than me
1-DD: Now also bigger than me!

5/6: Personally served CH with divorce papers
6/6: CH F? wants to time to see if M can be saved
7/6: FCH reenters our lives to work on marriage but secretly signs papers to start divorce...what's that about?
Mediation set for November
Final dissolution in January 2007.
2008 and beyond: Life goes on...
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I listen to most of those songs.

But my favourite is by Missy Higgins called the Special Two....

I've hardly been outside my room in days,
'cause I don't feel that I deserve the sunshine's rays.
The darkness helped until the whiskey wore away,
and it was then I realized the conscience never fades.
When you're young you have this image of your life:
that you'll be scrupulous and one day even make a wife.
And you make boundaries you'd never dream to cross,
and if you happen to you wake completely lost.
But I will fight for you, be sure that
I will fight until we're the special two once again.

And we will only need each other, we'll bleed together,
our hands will not be taught to hold another's,
'cause we're the special two.
And we could only see each other, we'll breathe together,
these arms will not be taught to need another's,
'cause we're the special two.

I remember someone old once said to me:
"that lies will lock you up with truth the only key."
But I was comfortable and warm inside my shell,
and couldn't see this place could soon become my ******.
So is it better to tell and hurt or lie to save their face?
Well I guess the answer is don't do it in the first place.
I know I'm not deserving of your trust from you right now,
but if by chance you change your mind you know I will not
let you down 'cause we were the special two, and will be again.

And we will only need each other, we'll bleed together,
our hands will not be taught to hold another's,
'cause we're the special two.
And we could only see each other, we'll breathe together,
these arms will not be taught to need another's,
'cause we're the special two.

I step outside my mind's eye's for a minute.
And I look over me like a doctor looking for disease,
or something that could ease the pain.
But nothing cures the hurt you bring on by yourself,
just remembering, just remembering how we were...

When we would only need each other, we'd bleed together,
these hands would not be taught to hold another's,
When we would only need each other, we'd bleed together,
these hands would not be taught to hold another's,
we we're the special two.
And we could only see each other, we'd bleed together,
these arms will not be taught to need another's,
'cause we're the special two.


Life may feel as if you are constantly getting kicked on a daily basis, living is about picking yourself up each day and going on and on and on regardless.

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Undo-

No need for you to be sorry friend. Things ARE going much better. I've still got some sadness and such to deal with, but things are NOT like they were in our home.

We're over a year into recovery now. OM is long gone and no longer part of our lives. We talk now MUCH more than we fight. We spend time together. I do feel much more comfortable now, and don't worry nearly like I used to about it happening again. She also still couldn't care less if I check up on her or not...she knows that I do (occasionally), but her attitude about it and the progress we've made make it so that I don't feel the need to do so hardly ever.

So now it's just dealing with the occasional 'triggers'. Other than that, we're doing fine. And I can deal with the things as they come up. Recovery IS possible. I know...I'm in the midst of it.

Things can go this way for you and your H too...trust me. It's really ALL about your attitudes...and both of you sound like you've got the right attitude to recover, IMVHO.

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Wow, all those songs all are hard hitters... Especially your AussieWife... Wow.

I listened to My Immortal on the way home from work they other day and cried my eyes out... That was a song that has a lot of meaning to my H Hopeful4Future.

I'm a singer and music/lyrics has been my salvation in many ways. It's helped me escape from the real world for just a few minutes and has also helped say things I that I have not had the courage to say out loud.

Thanks Owl... thanks for the encouragement. I know we're on our way. We know we'll see or 25th anniversary... You're right attitude dose mean alot. Since I've started going to IC, I've been learning alot of things about myself and I'm just feeling a bit lost these days.

Thanks again, Undo

Thanks again


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A song that can help a BS and a WS is the song "I Will Survive."

Did you think I'd lay down and die?
Oh no, not i. I will survive
Oh as long as I know how to love
I know I'll stay alive;
I've got all my life to live,
I've got all my love to give and I'll survive,
I will survive. Hey hey.
It took all the strength I had
Not to fall apart
Kept trying' hard to mend the pieces
Of my broken heart,
And I spent oh so many nights
Just feeling sorry for myself.
I used to cry
But now I hold my head up high
And you see me somebody new
I'm not that chained up little person
Still in love with you,
And so you feel like droppin' in
And just expect me to be free,
Now I'm savin' all my lovin'
For someone who's lovin' me



GLORIA GAYNOR


I think this song is a definite keeper.

You can't fall apart when everything is ashes. There is life after mistakes, poor choices and repentence and reconciliation with your spouse. Never give up. Always hope for the best and hold on. It may be a rocky ride but the destination is worth all of the storms, obstacles, and troubles that become you. Love is a choice. True love is looking beyond yourself and wanting the best for the person you love. Love is sacrificial. Love is patient,kind,forbearing, encouraging and forgiving.

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