Me too. You know who I always think of? Hillary Clinton. Can you ever imagine? At the time I used to think she would dump him once they got out of the White House. I know I wouldn't leave if I was living in the White House. I'd just send him to another wing. Anyway, I was so surprise they stayed together. Now I get it. Didn't want to understand 1st hand, but I do.

Aren't you just sick and tired of all the celebrity junk? I seriously sometimes wish it was the 50's and they would all put on their make-up and nice clothes when they come out and be the fakes they were back then.

I know some of them were outspoken, but today?... geez... all they do is spew out political stuff that they sometimes know nothing about... and even when they do, it's annoying.

List of celebrities I'd rather not hear about or from again (at least for awhile):

Tom Cruise
Bono
Pitt/Jolie
Nick and Jessica
Brittney and Kevin
Everyone on every reality show
And a pox upon anyone who uses the phrase "baby bump" to describe a celebrity baby in utero

<off soapbox>

New Beginning,

I'm right there with ya!! I love what you said about the 50's. Remember when everything was taboo and you didn't speak about any of your problems? Then it became okay to admit things weren't perfect in your household and I think that was VERY healthy. However, can we back up the bus a little? Nowadays people spew waaaay too much information. I think we need to turn back the clock. Reality TV? I admit I watch it because it shocks me. I want to shout at them - do you realize millions of people are watching? Do you care? You are discussing your sex life on national tv and you are a ho!! What is your future mother in law going to think!? I'm thinking "No one's going to marry you now!"

I love the way people used to dress. I remember my father didn't own a pair of jeans or sneakers! We used to make fun of him because he'd be sweating outside cutting the grass in a button down shirt and trousers. People used to take pride in the way they looked. We used to get all dressed up for church. I love watching The Bishop's Wife at Christmas. My favorite scene is them ice skating. She was wearing a dress! And they both had on wool coats and hats. There is something to be said for leaving some things to the imagination. Whenever I see Mariah Carey I just want to tell her to please put her boobs away. Yes honey, we see your implants and your desire to be a porn star. Now put them away and let your boyfriend dream about the moment he may get a peek at them rather then shoving them in out in public all the time.

Ahh well. Call me old fashioned. I'm waiting for the trend to shift again. Hope it happens in my lifetime.

Okay, Since I obviously still don't have that life I need, I have one more celeb to bash from New Beginning's list. Tom Cruise & Katie. I have yet to see a picture of the two of them where she wasn't clutching him. She is always pulling on his sleeve or photographed cheek to cheek. It just seems a little needy and teenagerish. If you ask me something's not right there. And I USED to love Tom Cruise. Not so much anymore.

See, shattered, we're obviously from the same decade (and we are, I see, I'm 47)... and I remember getting dressed up to go to the bank, for crying out loud. I remember when I worked as a teller, in 1979-1980, and seeing the construction workers come cash their checks on Friday SHIRTLESS. OMG! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> It just wasn't DONE before.

My dad had those crazy polyester plaid pants he wore to do the yard... even then they seemed a *little* funny. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Yeah, Tom and Katie... seem... plastic-y and somehow roboticly inhuman, to me.

I read a book by George Burns about Gracie Allen, and it was weird, because he admitted to being unfaithful to her once in their marriage. What was strange was that he talked about how 'everyone was doing it' but it was swept under the rug. I don't know if that's good or bad, but all I know is that we get TMI on celebs, too often.

I like one reality-type show, though I don't catch it often: Starting Over. I don't know what that says, either. The dance ones seem okay... it's those fear factorish ones that have gone way over the top. Running Man here we come -- murder on TV is next.

Anyway... ahem... I'll shut up now. This wasn't my thread and I've taken it off topic. LOL

Not sure if you misuderstood my Orchid, but that post was dripping with sarcasm. Guess what I was saying was that it is obvious to most people with a brain that WS's LIE beyond all belief. They lie blatantly and constantly.


Tare

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> I think those were my dads!!


Ooops! Guess I'm guilty too. Sorry. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

My list for movies to avoid gets longer by the minute because I REFUSE to put any money in the pocket of these sleezy liars.

I watched Jennifer on the Oprah special last night.

Rob said to me "you're smiling - did you know you were?"

I said it's cos she's SO NICE and so dignified and so ladylike.

I've never seen the attraction for Brad and I've never been able to watch Angelina in ANYTHING. I wouldn't go and see Mr and Mrs Smith on principal.

I believe you are thinking of two different people. Loretta Young had an affair with Clark Gable and got pregnant. She was able to keep it quiet-she went away, had the baby, placed it in an orphanage and then very publicly adopted the supposed orphan. The true story wasn't known until years later, although there were rumors. (Taylor Caldwell used the story as a plot point in one of her books.)

Ingrid Bergman had an affair, got pregnant, and divorced and married the child's father. It was all very public. She was not cast in another Hollywood film for years after.

REALITY CHECK, People.

Let's not forget one very important thing here:

Unless you personally know Brad, Jen, or Angelina, all you know about these people is what you read or see on t.v.

Who knows what the real story is? Do you? No.
And you probably never will. These are celebrities, for god's sake. Don't get your panties all in a bunch because Brad said or did this and then Angelina said or did that.
Ultimately, WHO CARES?

Personally, I don't feel too sorry for any of them. They are all rich as ****** and will be able to afford the very best counseling money can buy.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have an appointment back on planet earth.

KJ, we all admitted we need to get a life. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Interestingly, and I know, I know, it's TV. Jennifer said that just because she's famous it doesn't mean she's not human.

Of course we don't know the real stories. Come to think of it we really don't each other's real stories either.

KJ, even rich people have feelings. The debate on this thread is really about the lack of outrage the public has about infidelity. I guess most people don't care until it happens to them.

Yes, but why should the public be outraged? Allow me to guess. Maybe because we all have better things to do like run our own lives. Like I said before, unless Brad or Jen or Angelina is a personal friend of yours, who cares? You don't know the real story. Maybe Jen is a miserable person to be around, who knows? She certainly seems like a sweetheart, but until you know her personally, you just don't know what really happened.

Why should the public be outraged at anyone's affair? It is a personal matter, not a public one. People deserve that privacy.

What about your life? Isn't that infinitely more important to you than the life of a celebrity or two?

It should be.

Tare,

U don't recognize reverse babble when you see it?!?!?! LOL!!! Just kidding. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

U r right about the WS' need to lie. Part of their plan. Truth just clashes with the A. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

L.

Hey NBII,

Howz our northern friend doing?!?!? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Good to hear from you. Knew one of these threads would bring you back out posting. LOL!!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Drop me a line or 2 when you get a chance, ok?!??!!?

[email]Orchid2@yahoo.com.[/email]

Aloha,
L.