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Just planting seeds. Can't control the growth or the fertility of the soil. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Me (BS) 36 FWW 35 Married 5/25/91 DS-7 DD - Born 11/8/05 !!! PA #1 12/1996 PA #2 4/01 to 1/04 NC 1/04 There are people in the world so hungry, that God cannot appear to them except in the form of bread. - Mahatma Gandhi Don't think exposure is a good idea? Go here... From Harley Himself
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True that.....

Yuppers, it's hard for anything to grow when the fog is so thick, and all you can see is yourself.

You have to have faith that the fog will clear, and that seed will take.

Do unto others.....


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Thankyou very much for really taking time to help me.I think you are most likely the most intellegent person here.And i promise to think a lot about all that you have said.You know when i first got involved with him 'again'(because he was my first love years ago)i believed him that he was still married but that it was over.By 'over' i thought he was either divorcing or divorced or at least separated.He was very elusive about everything.And then once we were together...it was just electric...all those feelings..everything we once were came back again.So once i did find out how involved he really still was with her...i was devastated and i did'nt know what to do.When he was with me..i knew it was meant to be..it was so amazing...I've had two other serious relationships in my life...and never have i ever felt the way i do with him.(i wish i did'nt,it'd be easier) and as he says what we have,what we feel is indescribable...nobody is ever going to understand it.Oh...i am so confused still.I have promised to stay no matter what...i feel he really needs me to follow through on that.But i fear how long will i have to wait...and what exactly am i waiting for.And thats why i'm here...to gain insight.So thank you again with all my heart.


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I have no idea what the ****** you are talking about mrs stow.

Oh, Ashley of 1,000 threads... you have crossed threads here... to which post of mine do you refer?


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Ashley...

I don't know why, but I am going to explain something to you, and pray that maybe you'll take something from it...

You'll notice from my signature area that I am a FWW...[color:"red"]THE ADULTRESS[/color]...In my A, I NEVER had any intention of leaving my Husband...but guess what, I told the OM I was going to...I had to, I wanted him to stick around, so that I could have what I falsely believed to be the best of both worlds...Now that you have heard it from the proverbial horse's mouth do you get it? I was playing both sides against the middle...just like your lover...

Mrs. W

I don't usually quote myself Ashley, but I want to make sure that you read my words...Btw, my A was with my "long lost first love" too...

Mrs. W


FWW ~ 47 ~ Me
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In our hearts we have are married....we are and always have been stuck together..we are one..in every way.


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Isn't that precious?

I bet he tells ALL the girls that....


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Real integrity is doing the right thing, knowing that nobody's going to know whether you did it or not. - Oprah Winfrey
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NOT A WORD!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

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In our hearts we have are married
But in God's eyes you have sinned and are truly unrepentant.

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please don't respond to this poster and choose to ignore her posts!!!!

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I don't know what to say...what we are and what we have is what it is....and i would regret it more if i left him...because we would always wonder what could have been.I don't want to live without him ever again.


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please don't respond to this poster and ignore her posts!!!!

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I know who you are! And seriously you need to leave him and i alone...seeings how you have your own sin to deal with,you are wasting time wallowing in others affairs.


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Get a life!!! there's other places for you to snoop..nobody wants you here either...goodbye!


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TROLL! TROLL! TROLL! TROLL!

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Ashley,

I am by far not the most intelligent person here...trust me! But I have (as many here have) been where you are right now.

Here's something to think about....

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He was very elusive about everything....So once i did find out how involved he really still was with her...i was devastated and i did'nt know what to do.


Ask yourself....were his actions loving toward you when he lied and deceived you? Is that a display of love?

Sometimes when we feel so strongly in the moment, we lose sight of what real love is. Real love is trust, respect, care, and committment. Any relationship without that cannot flourish. My marriage was a good example. We had care and feelings of love. But after a while, the lack of trust, lack of respect, and lack of committment ruined the marriage. Neither one of us wanted to see it - in the beginning, and not even toward the end. It HURT to see it. But regardless of how much you try to bury it or cover it up, it's still there. And it's poison to a relationship.

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I have promised to stay no matter what...i feel he really needs me to follow through on that.

Here, you are showing him committment. What is he showing you in return? He obviously isn't committed to you, because he's still with his wife. Nor is he committed to doing what you would wish....leaving. Again, is this the way you would treat someone you love? I wouldn't think so.....the person you love deserves much more.

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But i fear how long will i have to wait...and what exactly am i waiting for.


I have a friend who has been in a 4 year affair with a man who physically abused her. Now, her marriage is no piece of cake....but neither of them have really tried to work on it either. Sadly, she has confided in me that if her OM asked her to marry him, she would.

She would be volunteering to be an abused wife. She would be knowingly subjecting her kids to possible violence. She would be showing her kids and abusive father as a 'model' to aspire to be. Shouldn't she deserve more? Shouldn't her kids?

Please realize that many of us pattern after our parents and our parent's relationships....I am no exception. Say you do land this man. He leaves his wife to be with you - and he is the primary father figure for your kids. Do you want them to pattern after a suicidal person? What would happen if he really DID kill himself? How would that affect them? How would that affect you?

One big misnomer is that we can 'fix' other people. You can no more 'fix' your MM's depression more than I could 'fix' my exH's self esteem. Nor could my exH 'fix' my codependency and inability to stand up for myself.

We all have our own problems. They are uniquely ours. And when we enter into a relationship, those problems are overshaddowed by the feelings of love and infatuation. But then we start to settle. The feelings of infatuation disappear, and the feelings of love start to mature. But they no longer 'cover' the individual problems we have.

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You know when i first got involved with him 'again'(because he was my first love years ago)i believed him that he was still married but that it was over.By 'over' i thought he was either divorcing or divorced or at least separated.


Your situation is very similar to the friend I mentioned. Nearly a year ago, she actually told her OM that she was separated and in the process of divorce. It was only in November that he went over to her house unexpected, and her husband answered the door.....needless to say, she couldn't hide (the A or her marriage) anymore.

It really is odd how so many situations are somewhat unique...but so very much the same.


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We know that it was God who brought us back together.We honestly believe that we are supposed to be together...and we are..and we will be forever. So,there!


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Have you read God's instruction book? It's a ten step guide for life.

What is the purpose of life?


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No it was satan that brought you together. Since troll didn't work, how about this! Begone satan's ******! So there. nana, nana, boo boo

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ha! ha! ha! yawn....go somewhere else if you don't like it here you weirdo!


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