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#1598032 02/24/06 02:30 AM
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Since I talked last, I was spending the holidays on an air mattress at my sister's house while my sons spent Christmas with mom in Europe.

However, the final parenting plan has been filed with the court.

President's Week - With STBXW every year she's out of country.

Spring Break - Alternate between STBXW and me starting with me in 2006

Christmas Break - Alternate between STBXW and me starting with STBX in 2006

WW can visit two weekends per month.

DS9 must return to Seattle 3 days before school starts in the case of one week or longer vacations.

Summer vacation while STBXWW is out of country is from one week after school is out until two weeks before school starts, DS9 is in Europe.

For any other vacation to Europe, he must return 3 days before school, and must return 3 days before school starts.

I ROCK.... out loud! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Financial mediation is set for March 10th. I have appraisals for three properties we own hoping to expedite, but she didn't like the numbers and got three new appraisals. Very creative results.

Mine
DC condo $375K, CA house $750K, and Seattle house $802K

Her new estimates
DC condo $370K, CA house $650K <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />, and Seattle House $950K <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

STBXWW seems to be confused about why I would challenge her appraisals and not simply just split the difference. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

BECAUSE ITS A $250K difference!!! So those of you who think I'm rich, I'm trying to keep a house in a neighborhood my sons have lived in since 1999. I don't care what it's worth except I want to be able to pay the mortgage by myself.

I sent STBXWW a message explaining I wanted to settle this in arbitration rather than court, but that the appraisals were kind of far apart to simply split the difference, and needed to be examined. I also suggested if she got a job in Seattle, she would be closer to DS9.

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I don't have the option for getting a job back in Seattle, mainly because of you actions Sleepless - your email (sent to friends and coworkers notifying them of the affair with the 19 year old)... you can talk to Friend and everyone else about this all you want, but the truth is, they aren't the decision makers--- it's those in DC. I also can't see being ANYWHERE near you - ever- because I simply don't trust you and I expect each time I see you are that doing something manipulative behind the scenes. (Because the cops might arrest her if she attacks someone again. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />)
That's it simply put- I called because I thought that you would be surprised by your lawyers actions.. actions which to me seem to only raise the $ you are paying... everytime I hear something new about what she is doing, I keep thinking that you wouldn't REALLY be like that and it must be her, but I have come to realize that you are the one driving the boat and it appears that $ and inflicting pain is all that you care about. I won't be calling to talk about this again between us - we'll let the lawyers handle it.

In some ways, I am glad that all this has come to pass between us, because it has taught me a huge amount about judging character... do you realize I haven't had a migraine in 9 months??? Do you realize that I started having the migraines while we were dating!! funny how the body reacts to situations and tells you if you when something isn't right. Right now I feel absolutely WONDERFUL (you sound wonderful... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />) for the first time in a lot of years. You were sucking the life out of me.. and you knew it..(I'm a regular body snatcher!)..My only regret is that you couldn't let me just leave YOU - YOU were the only one I needed to escape from... and if we had gone with our original agreement, DS9 would have not had to go through all of this and would have had both of us in his life in a manner very similar to what it was the whole time we were married (with his mom having an affair with a 19 year old boy and an occasionally physically abusive mother. Why would I want to change THAT? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />) Sorry about venting.(It's OK, you're entertaining).. but I needed to get that out there and make sure you don't ever have hopes of us being "friends" (I'm trying not to choke on my tongue.) or more by making remarks that I have to move back to Seatle.


STBXWW ran out after OM19 February 27, 2005. And she hasn't changed at all, and mybe even gotten worse! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

DS19 is communticating more. He has three jobs to make money so that his mom can't manipulate him anymore, and has recently told me, "Dad, mom's acting kind of immature right now." Yes, she is DS19.

I hope most of you are well. I'm sorry to have neglected my post.

God Bless you all!

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* Koff !* * Choke !* the FOG ! Help ! * Coff !*

She doesn;t trust YOU ? Your EXPOSURE ruined her chances of a job in Seattle, not her dropping knickers for a teenager ?

Saints on Bikes, the woman is certifiable !

You are well rid, my man. I hope the hurt's healing. "Friends" ? She'll be lucky if you don't righteously burn her house down !


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SnS,

Your son will probably be the only kid who wants to stay home on their vacation. YIKES!!! The travel schedule he has to endure.

Well if you children can see her immaturity, she isn't hiding it well. Best NOT t/b married or friends with such a character. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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prayers for you my friend.


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Hi Sleepless, welcome back. You are sounding better.

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Thanks for the update. Sounds like the mothership has permanently taken over!! Aw shucks sleepless she doesn't want to play with you any more. Yikes! Thank goodness there is an ocean between you!

You sound good. Have you started dating? Or are you waiting for D to be final?


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Wow! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> justification, entitlement and blame all in a short email. Glad to see an update sleepsless and I concur that you *rock*


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How am I doing Bob? I think I'm doing well. I don't have any anxiety about my son's safety anymore. The worst that could happen is for the mediator to give STBXWW all of her appraised values, and I would have to sell the house and move. But that wouldn't be the end of the world, just one more thing.

This weekend DS9 has his Pinewood Derby race which we worked on together for almost two weeks. STBXWW wanted to know if I was going to be there..... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Me: Uhhh. Yeah. I'm going to be there.

STBXWW: Well I only get to see him for the week.

Me: I just want to come and share in his excitement and see how the race goes. I also want to get some pictures since I don't always seem to get pictures from you. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

I've discovered that there are a lot of single moms in the neighborhood, and I've been getting some extra attention. But I'm sure I don't want to initiate ANYTHING at this time because of DS9's feelings and my feelings. But it's nice to have women smiling at me. That I'll accept!


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Thanks confused42!

I used to feel bad that his mom wasn't closer so it was easier for him to see her, but now I'm counting it as a blessing that she spends less time warping his brain. He is often reluctant to call her and read with her, so I don't force him.

Dating? Hmm. I thought about it, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea with my son around right now. Oddly enough, I am going out to dinner with a woman tomorrow night! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
She seems like a nice woman, but I'm not sure I have TIME to "date" anyone. I have some friends I have simply been talking with when I can, and of course, my son keeps me busy. Let's say I'm finally to the stage where I'm looking at other women and thinking..... she's kinda cute. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I had to break down the barrier that I set for myself as a married man of not even looking at other women. So I'm making progress.

I think I'll really be ready for dating by summer when DS9 and DS19 are in Europe for the summer. Why? Do you know anyone <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />


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I think I'll really be ready for dating by summer when DS9 and DS19 are in Europe for the summer. Why? Do you know anyone


LOL! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I kind of thought you and Pebbles would be good together but...this is MB not a dating service. I'm glad you are enjoying some POSITIVE attention for a change. You'll get there when you are ready, and with all you've learned here whoever it is will be lucky to have you!


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Hi, Sleepless.

Looks like things are progressing well for you.

I'm glad you are beginning to recognize that there are other women out there now.

Have fun at the derby!

God bless,
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I kind of thought you and Pebbles would be good together but...this is MB not a dating service.


Well that's not to say that Pebbles and I have not become terrific friends, because we have.

Right now I can't imagine starting a relationship with another woman, so that will probably take some time yet.
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Gimble my friend! How are you doing?

1st place in den for son's derby car. Didn't fair so well in the pack run offs, but all 7 cars were in an inch or two of each other at the finish line, so it was nothing to complain about.

I read your link on abusive women. Described my STBXW almost perfectly. Her behavior was not as evident during the courtship, but there were some indicators. I just didn't perceive them as such.

Happy D-Day anniversary for me! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Your son will probably be the only kid who wants to stay home on their vacation. YIKES!!! The travel schedule he has to endure.


Poor DS9 had a good and bad day at the Pinewood derby yesterday. His car ran great until the end, but then he didn't win the pack event.

When he got upset and said he wanted to go home, STBXW got mad and thought he meant our house, and not where they were staying.

DS9 - Mom's mad at me because she thinks I want to go home with you, and I do.

Me: Well Mom shouldn't get mad about stuff like that. Don't you think there's something fun you guys can do together?

DS9: Mom says if I go home with you, then she'll just head back to Paris today. But I don't want to hurt her feelings.

Me: DS9, it's not your job to make mommy or me feel good. You need to be able to say if your sad.

STBXW had dissappeared for a few minutes, and we thought maybe she just left. But when she reappeared, DS9 got

DS9: Dad stop talking, mom's here.

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> OK, now that bothered me. He should NOT be afraid to talk to me with his mom watching. I told him that if he wanted to come home with me, he was more than welcome to, but he and mom needed to make the decision. I hated to subject him to his mother's moods, but I also want him to be able to stand up to recognize the difference between the way she behaves and I behave. I won't be able to protect him over the summer, so we need to figure out a way to cope before he goes. I also don't want to get dragged into court for Parental Alienation. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Some good news is that some of the other mothers have seen her behavior and recognized that she's not the happiest person, and one even commented that it's too bad she would do that to her son.

So at the conclusion of the day, he was feeling better about himself, and told me he would see me on Monday! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
I said he sure would! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Found it. Bumped it. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Gonna update it? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


Me 40, STBXWH 43 Married 16 years D-day 01/25/05 Son 14, Daughter 10 Divorce almost final - I hope!

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