Welcome to the
Marriage Builders® Discussion Forum

This is a community where people come in search of marriage related support, answers, or encouragement. Also, information about the Marriage Builders principles can be found in the books available for sale in the Marriage Builders® Bookstore.
If you would like to join our guidance forum, please read the Announcement Forum for instructions, rules, & guidelines.
The members of this community are peers and not professionals. Professional coaching is available by clicking on the link titled Coaching Center at the top of this page.
We trust that you will find the Marriage Builders® Discussion Forum to be a helpful resource for you. We look forward to your participation.
Once you have reviewed all the FAQ, tech support and announcement information, if you still have problems that are not addressed, please e-mail the administrators at mbrestored@gmail.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
I
Member
OP Offline
Member
I
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
Post deleted by I_Am_I_Said


"I am I said! But no one listened, not even the chair" Neil Diamond (not a fan, just stumbled on it and it resonated with me, maybe with you...) Me- 42 BW Him - 41 - WH EA and PA - 8/05 - 2/06 DDay - second time - 1/2/07; 1st time 1999 Married 13 yrs Son - 10; SS - 16, SD - 20
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
I
Member
OP Offline
Member
I
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
Post deleted by I_Am_I_Said


"I am I said! But no one listened, not even the chair" Neil Diamond (not a fan, just stumbled on it and it resonated with me, maybe with you...) Me- 42 BW Him - 41 - WH EA and PA - 8/05 - 2/06 DDay - second time - 1/2/07; 1st time 1999 Married 13 yrs Son - 10; SS - 16, SD - 20
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
I
Member
OP Offline
Member
I
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
Post deleted by I_Am_I_Said


"I am I said! But no one listened, not even the chair" Neil Diamond (not a fan, just stumbled on it and it resonated with me, maybe with you...) Me- 42 BW Him - 41 - WH EA and PA - 8/05 - 2/06 DDay - second time - 1/2/07; 1st time 1999 Married 13 yrs Son - 10; SS - 16, SD - 20
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,138
E
Member
Offline
Member
E
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,138
my h blames me for his affair too

i'm willing to forgive him for having the A

but he says he can't forgive me for not being there for him....

ironic isn't it

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
I
Member
OP Offline
Member
I
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
Post deleted by I_Am_I_Said


"I am I said! But no one listened, not even the chair" Neil Diamond (not a fan, just stumbled on it and it resonated with me, maybe with you...) Me- 42 BW Him - 41 - WH EA and PA - 8/05 - 2/06 DDay - second time - 1/2/07; 1st time 1999 Married 13 yrs Son - 10; SS - 16, SD - 20
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,138
E
Member
Offline
Member
E
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,138
the bottem line is.........until he is able to accept that HE is responsible for the choices he made

just as you are

and your choices DID NOT FORCE HIM TO DO ANYTHING

then your marraige can't be healed

stop arguing your point with him

plan A

and ignore the rest of his crap

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
I
Member
OP Offline
Member
I
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
Post deleted by I_Am_I_Said


"I am I said! But no one listened, not even the chair" Neil Diamond (not a fan, just stumbled on it and it resonated with me, maybe with you...) Me- 42 BW Him - 41 - WH EA and PA - 8/05 - 2/06 DDay - second time - 1/2/07; 1st time 1999 Married 13 yrs Son - 10; SS - 16, SD - 20
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,473
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,473
Read this link, and tell us if this applies to your situation .

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/sho...rt=all&vc=1

It looks like he is blame shifting too - trying to get you to believe HIS BETRAYAL is not his fault, but yours.

My advice is DON'T BELIEVE IT.

When you love someone, and have trusted them and been loyal to them, it's hard to break out of the mold, and see what it is that they are doing, but it's something you need to see.

What does it look like to you?

SS


I think sometimes about all the pain in the world. I hope we can ease that here, even if only a little bit.
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
I
Member
OP Offline
Member
I
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
Post deleted by I_Am_I_Said


"I am I said! But no one listened, not even the chair" Neil Diamond (not a fan, just stumbled on it and it resonated with me, maybe with you...) Me- 42 BW Him - 41 - WH EA and PA - 8/05 - 2/06 DDay - second time - 1/2/07; 1st time 1999 Married 13 yrs Son - 10; SS - 16, SD - 20
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
I
Member
OP Offline
Member
I
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
Post deleted by I_Am_I_Said


"I am I said! But no one listened, not even the chair" Neil Diamond (not a fan, just stumbled on it and it resonated with me, maybe with you...) Me- 42 BW Him - 41 - WH EA and PA - 8/05 - 2/06 DDay - second time - 1/2/07; 1st time 1999 Married 13 yrs Son - 10; SS - 16, SD - 20
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
I
Member
OP Offline
Member
I
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
Post deleted by I_Am_I_Said


"I am I said! But no one listened, not even the chair" Neil Diamond (not a fan, just stumbled on it and it resonated with me, maybe with you...) Me- 42 BW Him - 41 - WH EA and PA - 8/05 - 2/06 DDay - second time - 1/2/07; 1st time 1999 Married 13 yrs Son - 10; SS - 16, SD - 20
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,520
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,520
(((Sadmo))

You're not a moron, you are hurting.

I'll check more of your thread later... I'm going back to bed.

Still


BW me 46
WH 46
Together 28 years married 23
3 Kids DD20, DD17 and DS 14
DD #1 (1st A) 10/13/01 with single OW who was co-worker
DD#2 1/23/02 phone call from OW
WH left job 4/02
MC 10/01 to 4/02 (when he showed up)
Separated 7/04 to 10/04
Retrouvaille 9/04
Red Flags 11/05
DD#1 (2nd affair) 8/16/06 with MOW age 29 twice married and he's her boss.
Moved out (him) weekend after labor day
23rd anniversary 10/7/07
Filed 10/18/06 still seeing MOW
Dropped divorce complaint 6/7/07
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 799
B
Member
Offline
Member
B
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 799
IaIs,

Your H is still in the fog. He will wake up and realize what HE did and be devastated. My H woke up about 2 months ago...it was heart wrenching to witness. I still have anger, but am processing it. My point is, none of what he says is true and he will wake up and have regret...at that point you are in control...be ready.


AKA VowsRSacred/ VRS Me 44 WH 46 dd Mar 7 06 Dday 2 Jan 19 07 EA and PA DD 19 DS 10 DS 7 DD 4
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,138
E
Member
Offline
Member
E
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,138
even though I was the BS, i didn't accept my part in our problems

my H did accept his part

it took alot BUT i finally understood

sadly, by then, my H had given up on "us"

he had come to beleive i would never accept my part in our problems

that's when he became angry and his thinking changed

he started blaming me for the A and for our failed recovery

by the time I came around....he had left

people change when they realize what they might lose if they don't

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
I
Member
OP Offline
Member
I
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
Post deleted by I_Am_I_Said


"I am I said! But no one listened, not even the chair" Neil Diamond (not a fan, just stumbled on it and it resonated with me, maybe with you...) Me- 42 BW Him - 41 - WH EA and PA - 8/05 - 2/06 DDay - second time - 1/2/07; 1st time 1999 Married 13 yrs Son - 10; SS - 16, SD - 20
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
I
Member
OP Offline
Member
I
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
first agreement to reconcile - he would be here with shop, now tonight tells me a different story. When I objected and said make sure the owner of company he works for knows he will not continue to travel all the time, he shouts a different story -- all about his job, his boss, and told me 3 times to "shut up". This is a no-win situation. BUT, I will no longer agree to come in second place and raise our son. Drastic thoughts I need help with -- Come ON you all. I am thinking that I need to separate and give him temporary custody of our 10 year old son - so he will get it - what I have done for years alone. But, if I do this, then he can move him to TX away from me , etc.... Don't know what to do..


"I am I said! But no one listened, not even the chair" Neil Diamond (not a fan, just stumbled on it and it resonated with me, maybe with you...) Me- 42 BW Him - 41 - WH EA and PA - 8/05 - 2/06 DDay - second time - 1/2/07; 1st time 1999 Married 13 yrs Son - 10; SS - 16, SD - 20
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
I
Member
OP Offline
Member
I
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 64
Know What?? It is the damn TRIGGERS - you experienced advisors know it, right? Told him in our "ground hog day" conversation - the second one, how triggers effect me.So we go to Home Depot and I think "Oh MY, the OW sat right here in his truck with him - the truck I am helping him pay for...) I see any military woman --- daggers since she is one/ I go to get my hair cut and all I can think about is the very real lustful twinkle in his eye when he described her long, curly hair (I have baby fine and very short hair - thankful to have what is there!) He's in Dallas tonight and I am a mess again. It just doesn't have to be this way, I know it! Not enough that he accepts that I will react to "triggers" - gratefully appreciate that, but at some point all of us have to accept that it is just too broken, right??????


"I am I said! But no one listened, not even the chair" Neil Diamond (not a fan, just stumbled on it and it resonated with me, maybe with you...) Me- 42 BW Him - 41 - WH EA and PA - 8/05 - 2/06 DDay - second time - 1/2/07; 1st time 1999 Married 13 yrs Son - 10; SS - 16, SD - 20

Moderated by  Fordude 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Search
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 554 guests, and 55 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Bibbyryan860, Ian T, SadNewYorker, Jay Handlooms, GrenHeil
71,839 Registered Users
Building Marriages That Last A Lifetime
Copyright © 1995-2019, Marriage Builders®. All Rights Reserved.
Site Navigation
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5