Hi all,<P>For the first time since this whole torrid event has taken place, I am frightened of my h. It is my opinion that he is out of control. <BR>He is sending correspondses to OW and they are very distrubing to me. He states that me (my family and me) are sick (because we believe in the goodness of the Lord) and that our attempts to make h see the light are a joke.<BR>What concerns me is the he states he is getting weapons. I may be taking this out of context-he may just mean for court-however, I cannot take that chance.<BR>He is due to pickup our d tomorrow and have her all day. I am in fear of her safety. Because of this mindset, and drinking on his part, i believe that allowing him to be w/ a small child is dangerous.<BR>Please pray for me and my d. I pray that God somehow intervene this meeting for tomorrow, or somehow give me the strength and courage to let my child go with him.<BR>I believe that " LALA Land" may very well be a dangerous place for my d at this point.<P>Thank you. It is so hard to fight this devil, when he has his claws in so deep.<P>God Bless,<BR>c

ceecee,<P>I will pray for you and your family tonight. I know only too well how it feels to have your spouse seem to be out of his/her senses and in the grips of evil. My wife was lost for a long time. Only now is she coming around, and I believe the prayers of myself and her family had a lot to do with it.<P>Good luck, and God bless...

Hi CeeCee -<P>First of all, calm down!!!<P>You could very well be misinterpreting...sounds like he is making fun of your strong show of beliefs which are apparently not of concern to him....Very Immature ramblings to OW!!!<P>I do not know where you are with that lawyer of yours yet.....what's going on with that end of things? Any progress with visitation schedule and such?<P>Do you have any choice but to let D go with him? If not then I don't know what to tell you.....just make sure that he has not been drinking when he picks her up and when he drops her off. Have someone there for verification incase he has and also in case of verbal abuse.<P>HUGS and Strength,<P>Sheba

Sheba makes a great point - definitely bring someone along, preferably someone he knows and respects. Then if he is out of line or if you truly feel your daughter is threatened, the other person can diffuse the situation or you can withhold her and have justification and a witness should the police get involved...

Came back to say...<P>Of course my prayers are with you and D.<P>What a bubble-head I am!!!!!<P>Hugs,<P>Sheba

Slade- Thank you for your prayers. How long was your w "out there"? This affair my h is involved in really concerns me. I think that him power of responsilbity has flown out the window.<P>Sheba- Thank you, friend. I know that I am probably over-reacting here, but this is much more than him breaking our marriage vows. He parenting skills were not not good to begin with and now I have to let him have her alone, with all this other circumstances.<BR>My atty has my paperwork. We are scheduled to meet some time next week, if all goes well. I have told her of my concerns in regards to my d, and she told me that because there is no court visitation yet, I have to let him have her.<BR>Thanks for your prayers. I really need them now.<P>c

Althought I'm not a religious man, my thoughts are with you and your daughter, Cheryl. I really hope your husband hasn't gone as crazy as it sounds!<P>--andy

Cheryl, <P>I am claiming and praying Isaiah 54:11-17 for you.<P>I don't see where the lawyer is giving good advice, but who am I to say. It seems to me that if you feel your child is in danger, and there is no visitation order, then you can withold visitation - but then again, he can too. It is a catch 22 without a legal document.<P>But, one really good thing, is he is sticking to the visitation plan. That is wonderful. That is REALLY wonderful. And perhaps he KNOWS that you presented a reasonable plan, and that bugs the heck out of him.<P>Maybe he is speaking of weapons as in "allegations" in court. It's hard to say. <P>I will continue to pray for you, CC. God IS on your side. No weapon formed against you shall prosper, and you shall have justice in every courtroom lie.<P>God Bless,<BR>me (in lieu of a new nickname)

cheryl,<BR>It seems to me also that in the absence of court-ordered visitation, there are no rules. That is not always a problem - my H and I do not have court ordered visitation. I don't like the idea of them staying overnight at her house, but the lawyer said the court would most likely allow it, so I didn't see much point in lining the lawyers' pockets by fighting it, especially since the kids already know he is living with her. My H and I have never argued about the specifics of when he sees the kids, but then again I, and the kids, want him to see more of the kids, not less. <P>I would think that if there was definitive evidence of child endangerment, you could quickly get an order requiring supervised visitation.<P>

My prayers are with you.<P>The one thing that gives me hope is that whernever I can't be with my children. The one who loves her even more than I and has the ability to protect her at all times is God.<P>May angels surround and protect her.

Your H doesn't have to believe like you in God or how to see him. That's a personal matter. He's not evil if he doesn't. What worries me is the drinking. I went through this with my oldest son. If your H is drinking and taking your daugher, you'd better be worried. Will he drink and drive? Will he drink at home in the evening? You need to talk to an attorney about his drinking and do what you can to protect your D. Drunk adults shoudn't be taking care of kids. <P>ps Is your D old enough to know not to get in a car with him when he has been drinking? Can you explain this to her?

I just now said a prayer for your safety!<P><BR>Satan is one busy devil, you are right <P>I'm sorry you have to be going through this... awful.<BR><P>------------------<BR>~Sheryl<P>Marriage: the most important contract you'll ever enter into, and the most sacred.<P><BR>

I suppose it depends on what state you're in, but I'm not sure that your lawyer knows what she's talking about.<P>For instance, our grandsons were visiting us when we learned that our daughter-in-law was sleeping with our son's best friend (OM's wife called us). Our daughter-in-law apparently was afraid of our reaction, so she didn't come get the boys. In the meantime, we called our son (an OTR trucker) and our attorney. We were told to keep the boys in our house--that even if she came to our house to get the boys, she would have to have a court order to get them, since we were keeping the boys by our son's authority. By the time our son got back to town, his attorney had the temporary custody papers ready for our son and the judge to sign.<P>What concerns me is that if you don't have custody papers, your H might not return your daughter, and could obtain temporary custody behind your back. It would be a done deal before you found out about it.<P> I'd seek out some more legal advice and make sure I had legal custody of my daughter before letting H take her anywhere. Allow him supervised visitation, but I wouldn't let her go with him--no matter what the law says. But, that's me.

CeeCee,<P>Hi and sorry I got here so late. I have been getting knocked off line all night. I will for sure say a prayer for you and your daughter. In fact I will light candle on my infamous mantel as soon as I post this. <P>I will also pray that your husband gets touched by the Lord and saved from all this awful stuff. Satan isn't going to win here. There are way too many of us claiming all the Lord promises us. We stand on his promises!<P>May you feel the peace and love that the Lord has for you and all of us.<P>------------------<BR>God bless you and all of us.<P>Samantha<BR>

Thank you ALL for your thoughts and prayers. My h just left with our daughter. He looked tired and like hell, but I don't think he had been drinking this morning. My dad was here, just in case.<BR>I have a sense of peace about letting her go. I am trusting in the Lord to keep her out of harms way. I know that she is safe in His arms.<BR>Your support and caring has really helped me through some very difficult times. Thank you again. I feel God's presense and He is giving me a calm, peaceful feeling.<P>God Bless,<P>c