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It is YOUR interpretation that makes it a lie.
(not neccessarily talking about this specific person, obviously I do not know the sitch)

Now that is a silly statement. Something is either true or false based on REALITY, not on someone's "interpretation." That makes not a lick of sense.

So, I take it you can't answer my refutation of your silly assertion that things on the internet are "not real?" I knew you couldn't, but I had hoped you would at least try. I guess not.


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Here's the thing...In the situation we were talking about the person in question told us one thing off board and then tried to say something entirely different on board...A complete misrepresentation of HER OWN STORY...AN OBVIOUS LIE...The lie got exposed, THAT is a GOOD thing..

AND...

The story/facts given to us (both my wife and I in chat) WAS done BEFORE she discovered, much to her shock and dismay, that she was going to be called to task, in what is now obvious was a very Dr. Harley like manner, for her status as an affair marriage.

The facts she gave us were reliable based upon the timing. The LIES were transparent based upoon the timing.

There ARE numerous other details she gave us in private which remain CONFIDENTIAL to this day. We were NOT on a witchhunt and I believe she was forewarned. I could have even contacted her 1st husband and asked him to join the conversation on MB...but I/we didn't. We could have posted her name, phone number, etc. but we didn't.

The insinuation that these facts, circumstances and activities on this board indicate that our intent is other than to help people or that we are somehow evil or "bad" is just ridiculous to the point where I don't think they are sincere. Thus, I end up suspecting and speculating that those questioning it are evil, "bad" and/or just foolish. So it's either a incorrect assumption with a feedback loop and everybody is good, I am posting to a fool, one IS actually evil/bad OR based upon the history of THIS board, I find it likely that I am exchanging posts with an unrepentent adulterer (a currently bad person but one I have HOPE for).

Again, I ask:

Are you the poster formerly known as Ladylayla???

And, if you are, would that be an indication you changed your name because my signature line accuartely reflected your status, ya know...IRL?

Mr. Wondering

p.s. - Lux...before you edit for names, I know your name is latin for "Truth and Light". There is nothing more truthful to be obtained about the posters on this board than their personal status regarding infidelity and/or the fact they are posting under alias's to escape their posting histories and further harass the serious memebers of this board under alternate names. I just don't see how it can be harassing to ask someone if they are an adulterer when they actively post on a infidelity website. It's germaine to the board. Obviously, I have no control over whether they answer or not. I apologize if you conclude I am harassing her and accept my edit graciously.


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That is LadyLayla, MrW.


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It is YOUR interpretation that makes it a lie.
(not neccessarily talking about this specific person, obviously I do not know the sitch)

Now that is a silly statement. Something is either true or false based on REALITY, not on someone's "interpretation." That makes not a lick of sense.

So, I take it you can't answer my refutation of your silly assertion that things on the internet are "not real?" I knew you couldn't, but I had hoped you would at least try. I guess not.

Mel, what part of 'I'm not interested do you not understand"
I know it can be frustrating when you are itching to play word games but let me say it again and slowly

I ..am ...NOT ....i n t e r e s t e d!

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...my take is once you have emotionally or physically exited the marriage for a length of time, you are free to move on.

I cannot believe no one has commented on this.

By this reckoning, my FWH was fine to have his affair, and I should not have bothered having my heart ripped out and stomped on.

Emotionally or physically?

Well, he had left emotionally for a time, but I was not aware. Even if I had been, the affair would still have been an appalling attack on me.

Why even bother trying to save any marriage, when all these disconnected WS's aren't even really WS's at all, but have just MOVED ON???

Well, this really explains a lot.


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I'm not a religious person and my take is once you have emotionally or physically exited the marriage for a length of time, you are free to move on.

You do understand that you described an affair, right? Waywards definitely "emotionally exit" and many times "physically exit" the marriage-that is NOT okay-They are not "free to move on"-who decides this "length of time"? Affairs are ALWAYS WRONG Oz, you get that, right? Do you even understand the purpose of this board? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

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And since I am posting at the same general time, and on the same thread as some of my friends, I guess that makes me a 'conspirator'. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


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Here's the thing...In the situation we were talking about the person in question told us one thing off board and then tried to say something entirely different on board...A complete misrepresentation of HER OWN STORY...AN OBVIOUS LIE...The lie got exposed, THAT is a GOOD thing..

AND...

The story/facts given to us (both my wife and I in chat) WAS done BEFORE she discovered, much to her shock and dismay, that she was going to be called to task, in what is now obvious was a very Dr. Harley like manner, for her status as an affair marriage.

The facts she gave us were reliable based upon the timing. The LIES were transparent based upoon the timing.

There ARE numerous other details she gave us in private which remain CONFIDENTIAL to this day. We were NOT on a witchhunt and I believe she was forewarned. I could have even contacted her 1st husband and asked him to join the conversation on MB...but I/we didn't. We could have posted her name, phone number, etc. but we didn't.

The insinuation that these facts, circumstances and activities on this board indicate that our intent is other than to help people or that we are somehow evil or "bad" is just ridiculous to the point where I don't think they are sincere. Thus, I/we end up suspecting that those questioning it are evil and/or "bad" and start posting accordingly. Based upon the history of THIS board, that typically means such person is an unrepentent adulterer.

Again, I ask:

Are you the poster formerly known as Ladylayla???

And, if you are, would that be an indication you changed your name because my signature line accuartely reflected your status, ya know...IRL?

Mr. Wondering

p.s. - Lux...before you edit for names, I know your name is latin for "Truth and Light". There is nothing more truthful to be obtained about the posters on this board than their personal status regarding infidelity and/or the fact they are posting under alias's to escape their posting histories and further harass the serious memebers of this board under alternate names. I just don't see how it can be harassing to ask someone if they are an adulterer when they actively post on a infidelity website. It's germaine to the board. Obviously, I have no control over whether they answer or not. I apologize if you conclude I am harassing her and accept my edit graciously.

wow, apart from the first bit, I have no idea what you are talking about. I could be that my mind is just not on it ATM, I've had a phone call, and need meet my daughter in 1 hr.

I will read this again later and see if it makes more sense...sorry

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Mel, what part of 'I'm not interested do you not understand"
I know it can be frustrating when you are itching to play word games but let me say it again and slowly

I ..am ...NOT ....i n t e r e s t e d!

What kind of "word game" is it to point out that Dr. Harley COUNSELS people on this FORUM and that it is VERY REAL, which refutes your silly assertion that anything on cyberspace is "not real?" Was that too tricky for ya? LOL <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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...my take is once you have emotionally or physically exited the marriage for a length of time, you are free to move on.

I cannot believe no one has commented on this.

By this reckoning, my FWH was fine to have his affair, and I should not have bothered having my heart ripped out and stomped on.

Emotionally or physically?

Well, he had left emotionally for a time, but I was not aware. Even if I had been, the affair would still have been an appalling attack on me.

Why even bother trying to save any marriage, when all these disconnected WS's aren't even really WS's at all, but have just MOVED ON???

Well, this really explains a lot.

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You do understand that you described an affair, right? Waywards definitely "emotionally exit" and many times "physically exit" the marriage-that is NOT okay-They are not "free to move on"-who decides this "length of time"? Affairs are ALWAYS WRONG Oz, you get that, right? Do you even understand the purpose of this board?


Just quickly to clarify before I get fried.
I am not talking about an affair, exiting a marriage and THEN moving on....obviously after a lot of thought and time.

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o...k <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

I see now that it's going to turn into a bashfest, so I will not be back to this thread when I return.
You can have it and play games amongst yourselves.

Out the door ............have fun

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FWH would tell you he gave it a lot of thought and time, before ever having his affair. He considered himself to have exited the marriage. It was still wrong.

Frying is much too fattening, I prefer to bake, myself. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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I am not talking about an affair, exiting a marriage and THEN moving on....obviously after a lot of thought and time.

Um WHEN you exit your marriage to be with another person, THAT is an AFFAIR (that IS what we have been discussing)...Passage of time makes no difference...There is no statute of limitations on ADULTERY...

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Well, bye then....if it is bashing to express surprise at what you said, and to strongly disagree with you, well you have your opinion and I have mine.


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