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Now I don't limit that to SITC so please don't feel I'm picking on you. I feel that way about at least 50% of what comes out of Hollywood including many of the other films mentioned in this thread.

Did you watch any of the other films that were mentioned in this thread?

I understand that Christians generally want to watch movies w/ nice people doing nice things wearing nice clothes.

And there IS a place for those movies.

But, movies like that can't satisfy deeply. I think the best movies/stories are where I learn to love an "ugly" person.

Isn't that what the gospel is?

Christ died for the ungodly.

The unlovable.

Those full of sin.

Those we don't want to look at.

Those we don't like.

I think watching/reading about gross sinners on the road to change, is uplifting...and well.... Christian.

I did not see SITC, but reading what Pep wrote about it, it does sound as though there was redemption and forgiveness in it.

Two pretty important Christian themes don't you think?

I'm not sure I really understand your post. It sounds to me like you are telling me that to be a good Christian I sould watch "Porky's"?!?!?! confused

No. Porky's II-The Next Day

That's the one with all of the interesting stories about the corrupt politicians and evangelist and racism (and what happens to those who engage in it.) GREAT movie!

Wonderful answer. I'll file it away for reference whenever I read another of your posts.

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**sigh**

This is why I've decided not to go to church anymore. Way too many judgmental "Christians". It gets very tiresome.



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**sigh**

This is why I've decided not to go to church anymore. Way too many judgmental "Christians". It gets very tiresome.


but you will watch what can be considered soft porn...go figure.

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**sigh**

This is why I've decided not to go to church anymore. Way too many judgmental "Christians". It gets very tiresome.


but you will watch what can be considered soft porn...go figure.

Whatever MEDC. Yanno, I know you probably won't give a hoot but I'm really depressed and sad this morning because of some news I got yesterday and I really don't need to hear this.


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I'm sorry for what ever is going on in your life. As far as not needing to hear something, I would suggest, that if you are NOT looking for comment or response...use a journal. A forum post will result in a response more often than not.

I hope things get better for you soon. And I always give a hoot.

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Although I may not agree with you on this movie, I am really sorry to hear you are going through a hard time. Whatever your situation is, I will pray for you.

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This is why I've decided not to go to church anymore. Way too many judgmental "Christians". It gets very tiresome.

(((((Princess))))

I EMPATHIZE...and way too many who are hypocritical and do EVIL in the name of doing GOOD....

IN MY PRAYERS...


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I EMPATHIZE...and way too many who are hypocritical and do EVIL in the name of doing GOOD....

Yep...like the makers of this movie and a certain politician that helps destroy babies while pretending to care about women's rights. Hypocrites that will burn for eternity.

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I hope you are speaking for yourself. I think the kind of movie you describe as unsatisfying is very satisfying.

I didn't say those movies were unsatisfying. I said they couldn't satisfy as deeply as one that showed us people the way God might see them.

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Have you seen Facing the Giants?

No, I haven't. But, thanks for the recommendation. I'll have to check it out sometime.

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Yes, so was the whole gospel presented in this movie. I missed the scene where they all turned their lives to Christ, sold everything and followed Jesus.

Since I haven't seen the movie, and have not read where someone said that took place, I'm going to have to go w/ no, it wasn't.

I can only think of books that tell that story.

That's a high bar to set for your movie viewing.

I'm thankful when CHURCHES preach the whole gospel. It is in places of worship that I become a stickler.

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Sure, they forgave themselves and forgave each other. But did they seek God's forgiveness?

I can see God's goodness whenever humans forgive each other.



















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I'm not sure I really understand your post. It sounds to me like you are telling me that to be a good Christian I sould watch "Porky's"?!?!?!

I've never seen the movie, so I couldn't recommend it.

I'm sorry, that was what you got from my post.

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I'm not sure I really understand your post. It sounds to me like you are telling me that to be a good Christian I sould watch "Porky's"?!?!?!

I've never seen the movie, so I couldn't recommend it.

I'm sorry, that was what you got from my post.

What was it you were trying to relay?

Perhaps that Christ walked with sinners? That He came to heal the sick not the righteous?

And I can learn that by watching trashy movies?

I don't need to watch porn to know that women in the sex indusrty are broken and in need of healing.

Thanks, but no thanks. Exposure to evil is never a good thing.

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I don't need to watch porn to know that women in the sex indusrty are broken and in need of healing.

Exactly!

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Sorry for whatever you're going through, PM.








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What was it you were trying to relay?

Perhaps that Christ walked with sinners? That He came to heal the sick not the righteous?

And I can learn that by watching trashy movies?

I don't need to watch porn to know that women in the sex indusrty are broken and in need of healing.

Thanks, but no thanks. Exposure to evil is never a good thing.

Wrong again, that's not what I was saying or am saying.

I'm not recommending a movie I haven't seen. Nor am I advocating that you expose yourself to evil.

I was simply trying to point to what others said SITC did right.

Here are some movies that I think are wonderful character films that I WOULD recommend... The Queen, The Dresser, and A Soldier's story.

YMMV






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Calling sin sin is not being judgmental.

To me, and bringing this around to what I believe Dr Harley teaches, being judgmental means thinking one is better than another. I.E. thinking one is better than another based on what movies they watch.

I can be critical of the movie without being judgmental of those who may choose to watch the movie.

That is my position. If anyone feels criticized, I have to ask why? I'm only critical of the movie, not those who choose to watch it.

One who follows Christ knows there is no difference between any of us and the characters in the movie, or even the person who may have sinned against us the most. Sin is sin to God.

We are still called to speak out against sin, and to do so is NOT being judgmental.

But if any one thinks that we are better than any other human being based on our own choices, we are mistaken.

The only way any person is righteous in the sight of God is if they are covered by the blood of Christ.

PS. this says it's in response to Princessmeggy, but I could have sworn I wacked "quick reply" I'm speaking in general, not to any specific person.

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Sin is sin to God.

While the wages of all sin is death...God clearly differentiates between sins. Some sin IS substantially more serious than others.

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Princessmeggy, Pepperband, Mimi, Charlotte - all women I respect and admire... but on this issue I don't find any good in the movie or your synopsis of it.

Here's why:

My instruction goes back many years, to the time my mother (dairy farmer) caught my grandmother (also a dairy farmer) with margarine on the table - and she chastised her mother by saying, "What are you doing giving aid and comfort to the enemy??!"

Aid and comfort to the enemy means spending dollars in the enemy's camp, boosting the enemy's stock, and giving the enemy dollars that can then be used against you. (Imagine how I feel about our dependence on foreign oil!!)

Any time you can go to a movie and say, "it was mostly good and entertaining, except for this part..." it wasn't a good movie. It took something from you and planted in its place a way to rationalize evil away. Any movie that calls evil good and good evil is not a good movie.

Yes, I understand SATC portrayed the pain of adultery with one couple, but left the big glaring adultery in the center of the main character's marriage stand - don't you see how TOW is gloating over how "some couples work out - maybe it will be me" - and you gave that producer/author/director money to do it again by going to see the movie? Adultery, premarital sex, and other forms of cheating sells!

The sad thing for me is that you guys bought it! And will likely buy the video too. Even after I've pointed out how you give aid and comfort to your enemies (TOW and Hollywood) when you do this.



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applause

and to help make KA's point..notice the glowing reviews from the cheaters club

http://gloryb.com/forum/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=1;t=041475

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