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#2217057 02/19/09 06:38 PM
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Hi,

I am an atheist and I have noticed something in many postings, particularly FWW because I read more of those. The FWW will often make a posting about her infidelity and sprinkle things like "I'm a Christian", "I love the lord", "I know God has forgiven me", ... throughout their postings.

I'm wondering why you do that? I see it so often I am beginning to think that christian women cheat more often than the others. wink My question is serious, I'm having trouble understanding what point you are trying to make.



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I can only speak from personal experience, but me and my wife were raised in the Baptist religion. People, no matter what religion they, are still human and can make mistakes. I noticed a huge bad change in my wife over several years after we stopped going to church, and still even to this day she doesnt go back to her biblical principles she was raised in. My W cheated on me and I am willing to forgive her, but she has no biblical right to leave me. Still she doesnt care and will do it anyway. I can only say we are all human no matter what religion we are.



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Frankly, as a Christian and a BW, I am offended by the wink you give to the concept of Christians stepping outside their marriage vows more often than non-Christians.

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My theory is they say I LOVE GOD so much because they hope you will see that and go "oh she just strayed we should forgive her" or something like that.

A distraction from their misdeeds I suppose.


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Adultery isn't a "mistake".

It's a malicious act.


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If you were meaning what I said, I was mocking what the WSs who post often seem to mean.

I didn't mean that I believed it.


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I was implying "christian" women commit adultery because they have an automatic out.

Being "pre-forgiven" and the christian husband being REQUIRED to forgive her.


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You are easily offended. The wink meant that I don't believe that.


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Karmasrose, Pariah,

So sort of like saying I'm sorry I killed your puppy, I'm really a nice person. I can sort of see that. I think Pariah may also have a point in that is is like saying you are required to forgive me, if you are also a christian - so doesn't apply to me.

I was thinking it put christianity in a bad light but I can see what you are saying.


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See, here's the kick in the teeth right here.

You are REQUIRED to forgive her malice, no matter how many times she does it.
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Mark 11:25-27

25"Whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone, so that your Father who is in heaven will also forgive you your transgressions.

26 But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father who is in heaven forgive your transgressions."

But there's hope yet in this one.

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John 20:24

23"If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained."


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YES Christians are required to forgive but they are also permitted to divorce in the case of adultery so what exactly is your point?

There will be no unrepentant adulterors in heaven.

Unfortunately adultery is just as rampant in the church - not more rampant.


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Originally Posted by Pariah
26 But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father who is in heaven forgive your transgressions."


So does this mean there will be no BS's who haven't forgiven their WS's adultery in heaven? If so its a bit harsh no?


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Originally Posted by 6yearsleft
Hi,

I am an atheist and I have noticed something in many postings, particularly FWW because I read more of those. The FWW will often make a posting about her infidelity and sprinkle things like "I'm a Christian", "I love the lord", "I know God has forgiven me", ... throughout their postings.

I'm wondering why you do that?


I Don't!

Yet I call myself a Christian.

Let me ask you a more important question please, what standard do you use to guage what is moral vs immoral? Like adultery, do you consider it a moral act or an immoral act?





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Originally Posted by Pariah
26 But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father who is in heaven forgive your transgressions."


So does this mean there will be no BS's who haven't forgiven their WS's adultery in heaven? If so its a bit harsh no?

It gives me hope that I'll get to see her and OM in hell.


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Hello tst,

Adultery is immoral, it is stealing through fraud. My morality is pretty basic, you are not allowed to compel another person through force or fraud ever. Also that human happiness is the greatest good. Seems to cover most situations.


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I believe the reason Christian WS's outnumber non-christian WS on this forum is due in part because of the high value Christianity hold on marriage. We don't see WS's like my WstbxH who left to be with their OP and/or had no desire to remain in the marriage to start with. They just don't care about marriage building. OTOH, Christians have specific doctrines regarding marriage and a "Christian" WS may be less likely to want to give up their M just because they had an affair.

I put Christian in quotes there because I do believe there are some WS's that use it as a veil to cover up their malicious acts. Sort of a "now that I've seen the light you have to forgive me" type of get-out-of-jail free card that I think Pariah is talking about. Some even get away with here (at least in their own minds), probably because of the first category I described who are truly remorseful.

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26 But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father who is in heaven forgive your transgressions."


So does this mean there will be no BS's who haven't forgiven their WS's adultery in heaven? If so its a bit harsh no?

It gives me hope that I'll get to see her and OM in hell.

Pariah, if you want to take comfort in my personal beliefs - I believe my post-d-day experience WAS hell. I've been and gone, and it's all uphill from here!

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Tabbi, I knew there's a reason I like you!

You have the same name as my GF, you gotta be great! laugh


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Tabby,

I can see that. I do think the site has a high population of christians in general. I can also see what you are saying about eh death row conversion aspect.



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FWIW, I just opened another thread for the first time called "I am the one" and it's the second type I described to a TEE. I could be wrong, but the words read just as I pictured them when I typed that post above.

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