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Anyone on psychotropic medication such as anti�depressants and anti-psychotic drugs, please go to the following website and study the material/videos on this website: http://www.cchr.org/. If you know anyone who suffer from depression, anxiety etc. please urge them to visit the above website BEFORE start using any such medication or visit any physiatrist or doctor to prescribe these drugs.

Make sure you inform yourself well about it because most medical experts fail to do that and many medical practitioners today don�t even have the insight/knowledge the above website and material provides. The above website reveals the facts and full information about psychotropic medication and the psychiatric industry that created them. I think every human being exposed to this type of medication has the right to know the facts and history about it.

I�m speaking from personal experience after I�ve been through a terrible experience last year with psychiatrists and psychotropic medication. Today I�m 3 months clean from all such medication but I�m still recovering from the negative effects it had on my health after I�ve almost been medicated to DEATH by psychiatrists. I�m sending this thread and warning because if it can save just ONE life or prevents ONE person from going the same route, I will be glad.

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
The Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR) is an advocacy group established in 1969 by the Church of Scientology and psychiatrist Thomas Szasz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCHR


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_psychiatry


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I have bipolar disorder, a diagnosis which has been confirmed by 3 doctors. I take medication, and I am very glad that I do. I am happy for those who are truly able to function and be the person/wife/husband/parents they gouht to be without medication. However, these illnesses ARE real and the medications DO help. And there is nothing wrong with taking them, no matter what Tom Cruise says. Period.

And what exactly does this have to do with surviving an affair???

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And what exactly does this have to do with surviving an affair???
Nothing, she has probably just finished OT IV and want's to spread the word anywhere she can.

I find scientology phascinating, has anyone else on here reserched it at all?


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Thomas Szasz has no connection to the Church of Scientology.
He does not adhere to their beliefs.

Without getting into a discussion that is too long for this venue, Dr. Szasz is 90 years old, and has a perspective on the evolution of clinical psychology, psychiatry, and pharmacology which must be understood in order to fully grasp his writings. His original criticisms of psychology were in response to the Soviet political strategy of labeling dissident opinions with pseudo-medical "diagnoses" to dismiss the critics of communism as being clinically insane. Many of them were locked away in prisons masquerading as hospitals.

Today, we still see this technique employed by socialists in their manufacture of labels for the opposition, such as "homophobic". Those who disagree are not recognized as having a different frame of reference, much less holding views which are based on better facts and analysis; they are simply "in denial" for not accepting the latest socialist agenda. Different individual economic and lifestyle tastes are the result of gross character defects like "greed" and "arrogance" (which could be eradicated by proper education), or an "addiction", to petroleum-based products (which could be cured by more state control).

Szasz has mainly been a critic of those in medicine and psychology who lend themselves to promoting the dominance of the State over the individual, rather than helping the individual improve their problems in associated living.

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Originally Posted by Retread
Thomas Szasz has no connection to the Church of Scientology.
He does not adhere to their beliefs.
He may not adhere to there beliefs as far as religion, but he does have a connection to them at CCHR.

And I believe the OP is leaning more toward the churches view.

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I think the science of this is being watered down by the increased use of medication to resolve what are really behavioral issues. I know I've fallen, twice, into the trap of medication for what could have been resolved with simple behavioral choices.

I was given anti-anxiety medication to deal with my exH's physical abuse.

And depression medication to deal with my H's neglect.

Neither one did anything to fix the actual issue. A divorce, restraining order, and several arrests fixed the first one. Doping for a year did nothing for the second, so now I'm trying SH. I'm just saying, it's been my experience that Drs are too willing to dope people out of their problems. I'm pretty sure if I was on Xanaz right now, I wouldn't give a crap, but would that actually fix anything?


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I do believe that there are times when doctors reach for the prescriotion pad way too easily. But I am pretty sure that if I weren't on Effexor, Lithium, and Zolpidem Tartate right now I would be:

In a severe manic phase overspending, going wild, never sleeping, screaming at H

Lifeless, uncaring, depressed, empty, unmoving

A combination of the first two

Dead

The reason the whole "psychaitry is a crock and mental illness doesn't exist" stance of some of these organizations/religions gets to me is because it just furthers the stigma attached to mental illness. And that is no only uneducated and uninformed, it is not fair.

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Pharmaceutical treatment of emotional problems are invaluable when the problems are due to abnormal brain chemistry, and they are very useful in less severe problems, on a temporary basis.

For example, if someone has become temporarily depressed due to hormonal imbalances following childbirth, a temporary use of an drug might be useful to "snap them out of it", so they can realize that the world they had been seeing was distorted.

A person who has been married to, and coping with a depressed, or manic depressive spouse for decades may have taken on a mindset to match that, and be totally unaware of how they have changed. A temporary prescription of an anti-depressant might be just the thing to put them back into their original personality, after the death of that spouse, or after divorce.

Thomas Szazs is a psychiatrist. He can, and has, prescribed drugs. He wrote most of his works criticizing the misuse of psychology and of drugs in the 1950s and 1960s, long before the new generation of psychotropic drugs on the market today, and long before the founding of the Church of Scientology.

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Originally Posted by lurioosi2
I do believe that there are times when doctors reach for the prescriotion pad way too easily.
Absolutly.


Originally Posted by lurioosi2
But I am pretty sure that if I weren't on Effexor, Lithium, and Zolpidem Tartate right now I would be:

In a severe manic phase overspending, going wild, never sleeping, screaming at H

Lifeless, uncaring, depressed, empty, unmoving

A combination of the first two

Dead
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elli_Perkins

Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Thomas Szazs is a psychiatrist. He can, and has, prescribed drugs. He wrote most of his works criticizing the misuse of psychology and of drugs in the 1950s and 1960s, long before the new generation of psychotropic drugs on the market today, and long before the founding of the Church of Scientology.
Good for Dr Thomas Szazs.
That's why I did not highlite his name in the text I quoted.

He is of no consequence to my interest in this thread.
It's the OP's post and her link to the CCHR that peaks my interest.


Originally Posted by lurioosi2
The CCHR continues to be entirely controlled by and subject to policy directives issued from the Church of Scientology. The group is headquartered in Los Angeles, California.[5]

CCHR's views on psychiatry are a reflection of the position held by L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, whose writings express very strong opinions against psychiatry.[6][7] CCHR advocates that there is no biological evidence to support psychiatric theories of mental disorders

Your Dr. Szazs just helped found it, The CoS runs it.


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