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After 6 weeks of the affair being out, it just seems to get worse. Our kids are angry and horrified. The OWs family do not care - they like my WH. The company he drives for do not get involved with who drives together. Maybe being together for days at a time in the confines of a truck cab will not seem so great eventually. I don't know. He told me today in 6 or 8 months he will file for a no fault divorce. I got the usual -"I love you but am not in love with you" thing. I am so hurt and confused and tired. Something in me still wants to hang on, but part of me doesn't. Since he is gone, I am heading for a Plan B - not that I have alot of choice, except that he still calls me pretty much every day. Why is that, I wonder?? Do 23 year olds get tired of 52 year olds or vice versa? How DO you know when there is just no hope left?

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Personally, something snapped in me one day and it was over. For months and months I still hoped long after everyone around me became irritated with me and told me to 'give up' but somehow I was still holding on to hope despite myself.
For me I compared it to a rope that tied us together, a rope that had been thickened by the years together and experiences shared. Every bad thing he did to me frayed that rope until it became thinner and thinner and then one day it snapped.
Dr Harley uses the analogy of the lovebank which is a more optimistic one because it implies that even if it goes into the red it's possible to come back from that. For me once the rope snapped there was no coming back.
It seems to me that if you are asking the question then there is still hope. You'll know without doubt when there is none.
And yes, for sure that relationship is doomed, the question is how much damage will be caused before the end?

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Originally Posted by tully
Dr Harley uses the analogy of the lovebank which is a more optimistic one because it implies that even if it goes into the red it's possible to come back from that.
Dr Harley does say, though, that sometimes the spouse closes the LB so that deposits cannot get through. He warns a WS against pushing things and messing about until this point is reached.

However, I understood kellidane to be asking about whether it is realistic to hope that her H will end the affair, not how long her own willingness to reconcile will last. Is that correct, kellidane? Are you asking this because, after six weeks, he has not changed his stance, exposure has not brought any consequences and he is living with OW?

I see strong indicators that he will continue on this path until the affair burns itself out. I do not think that the usual Plan A and Plan B measures will work to end the affair. I say this because, as Dr Harley says, one of the main pulls back to the marriage is when there are dependent children.

The WS is getting some of his most important needs met by OW. The main need that you can provide that she cannot is his family life. When the WS leaves his children, he knows that he is hurting them, and he misses them. The children are a strong pull back to the marriage.

However, yours are all adults, even if some of them are still living at home. Your H probably does not feel responsible for their welfare and happiness the way he did 15 years ago when they were young.

I have read here that Steve Harley (Dr Harley's son) tells the BS that Plan B is unlikely to bring the WS back to the marriage when there are no dependent children. It seems that, without children, or with fully adult children, the WS is easily able to see the "fatherhood" part of his life as finished.

It isn't really possible for anyone here to tell you whether your Plan A/Plan B measures will bring your H back to the marriage. There are many BSs here who have followed the Harley strategy of Plan A (including exposure) and Plan B, and who have very young children, whose WS does not go back.

Certainly it is likely that this 25 year-old married mother is not seriously interested in a future with your H. As many people pointed out on your other threads, she might be looking for a way to bring her H and kids from Guatemala to the USA, and she will use your money to do so.

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okay - her husband is in Guatemala with her 2 young sons where she plans on leaving them. He is an illegal alien and she was working to get him papers and then they were going to work together to get their sons up here too, but now she figures that the kids are better off without her since she is so messed up.

I even more firmly believe that your priority right now should be to secure legal assistance in making sure that FAMILY resources and finances are protected.

This woman could be targeting your WH in a scam that siphons money from your family. She could working to get her illegal alien husband and 2 young sons in the United States.

Protect your assets....worry about a marriage with a serial adulterer later (this is his FIFTH affair????)

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I don't think you acted on this advice, but I think you must. You stated today that your H intends to petition a no-fault divorce in six months. You must not let that happen.

You should seek legal advice about petitioning first, for adultery. Depending on your state, this might make no difference in the division of assets, but filing now will allow you to protect your existing assets before your H gives them away to OW.

You are in a dangerous position, kellidane, and you need to act today. The affair will probably end in under two years, messily and with humiliation for your H. However, you must not allow yourself to be taken to the cleaners financially before that happens.


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PS: do not start new threads. I had to do a search on your previous threads to understand the backdrop to your story. I would not have been able to give the advice I did without knowing of the OW's situation and your H's past affairs.

Please stick to a single thread, to make it easier for people to post to you.


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Do 23 year olds get tired of 52 year olds or vice versa?

Ummm, YES, imagine them as a couple at 33 and 62 respectively, 10 years from now. Does this girl have stock in Viagra, Daddy Warbucks better keep paying the bills too.

Given the circumstances your husband is more likely to have an affair with the girls mother and leave her daughter and get beaten down by the husband then have a successful long term relationship. Well there is no fool like an old FOOL.

What does May look for in December? CHRISTMAS!

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Protect your marital assets from this man and file for legal action.

The odds are very high he's being used for other reasons.

And don't meet any of his needs by responding to his actions. He can't miss you if you fill that aspect of his EN's. He will cake eat as long as you stay in contact with him in any way.

It is hard, but you must be totally dark.

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thank you for your thoughts. I guess I figured out the fact that our kids being as old as they are puts me at a disadvantage as far as WH feeling any guilt/remorse/responsibility to them. Especially since he pretty much has allowed the 2 he talked to since the mess started to write him off with no objections or arguement. I am so afraid to take the step of talking to an attorney. I guess because it will make me feel like I am giving up and I don't know that I am ready to yet. I can't even give myself an honest answer as to why I would want to continue again with him.

I am sorry about the new thread thing. I am not too savvy about this kind of posting thing and I didn't understand exactly how the thing works, I guess. I will just stay on this. If there is a way to link these, maybe that would be good??

I will, however, give the legal advise some very serious thought over the next few days. I know there is some truth to the danger although we don't really have a lot of assets. More debt and a house we bought only 2 years ago - not much equity in today's market.


Married 32 years
D-day 6/13/10-loves me/loves her too
D-day#2-7/3/10 moved in with 23 year old OW
3 kids-29, 26, 24 - 8 grandchildren
Praying for God to keep me strong and fight this.

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