They aren't exactly THINKERS are they? For if they thought about what they were doing, they'd see it was insane and plain wrong.

I think the wayturds try the whole "if we weren't having an affair, you'd love ow/om, because you're so much alike" is to do their ultimate wayward goal. GAIN ACCEPTANCE.

Today I saw the most strained photo online. Of the horrible and super-fugly Leann Whines (Rimes) as she pushes herself into a birthday party for her sleazy affair partner now masquerading as her fiance (with the ring she purchased for herself) and she tries to pretend nicey nice with his now xbw.

Dear Lord. I totally know how the poor xbw felt. Been there, did that at several birthday parties. The first one after my divorce, my xh's instant wife (affairage) was there with the baby. all friends of mine were like ????? Everybody knew it was insane.

Here's the homewrecker and evil skank Leann trying to pretend she is a normal and not-evil person:

The skank-ho horseface is to the left with her cell phone up, probably texting how "great" it is to be there with the bw and all, pretending that she thinks that the x betrayed wife (who is on the right and far more lovely and dignified than leann is)kinda looks shocked to me that she has to share the space with sleazy Leann.

I seriously hate Leann Whines. You see, that in action is the ultimate goal of a wayturd and an OP! Acceptance!

And what must NEVER EVER be given to homewreckers and their illicit married affair partners under any circumstance.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that one too.. The guy was a salesman for a trucking company, kinda fat, as a matter of fact, they all called him "Fat_____" , (first name). when I asked why they called him that, a younger guy said, " Well he throws himself around like a big shot who is better than everybody, but his dad gave him the house, and we all know hes a coke head, so hes a joke"

My boys who were forced to live there for a couple weeks, laughed at me when I said I was afraid he was going to replace me. "Ha Him? He could never replace you or be my father!" Real Man? She meant "real a-hole-right-up-my-alley"


Yes yes yes!!! I have gotten something like this a lot, even all the way through Plan A.... I mean... is this some common thread? . [/quote]

Yup it is, its like they try to change the world into some love-fest . They want to have it all, and its easier if you approve.

I remember after years of my mom going to see the pastor of our church for counselling, and my dads stubborness and paranoia, it finnally coming out, that the reason he kept saying, "I want a divorce", was that he was interested in someone at work.

He told my Mom he wanted to move her in with us and "help" her. Yeah watch the theme, they allways affair down. Its a pretty simple formula, you have to go down to find someone to fufill purely selfish needs. That was in the 70s also, and he quoted the communes. I really can't bash my Dad for being a sleaze, he wasn't before he worked himself into the ground. I can be upset at him for being so stubborn, and not taking counsel though. My mom was willing to do whatever it took. She was not blind to her own issues either.

My WW thought she was gonna replace my kids Father,(me), with the other guy too.

Its a common thread that the world revolves around them, and how they see things.



Yeah they are all like Bill Paxton in "True Lies"..Poor little insecure boys..

Like the crazy celeb I dislike above, their common goal as an OP and for the wayward is to get the rest of the world and their immediate family and friends AND YOU, THE BS, to accept their crap. To embrace and accept them. AFFAIR too. Support it even!

My xh had a crazy dream. Wanna know what it was everybody? CP you'll think this is hilarious (in a dark dark way).

He wanted and said on numerous occasions he wanted to purchase for me in same subdivision (very nice one) in the area where the cluster homes which are smaller are, a house. A house maybe five minutes away from his house and the once dream house we built together.

He said he would love to be able to come over for Sunday dinners, and to spend some quality conversation time with me and my son, and then he'd bring his son over to his house (our old house he still had and one I left)for the night for a few nights of the week. He said he wished I would just let him "get things out of his system (the affair)". He said he wished I could just "get to know her b/c I'd like her, if things were different". He said he could really see me (this is their secret desire) being her friend.

He said he knew that things with Monkeyho wouldn't probably be permanent, but that he wanted US (he and I) to always remain friends thru the divorce (which it got uglier than ugly. Even uglier than Leann Whines!) and that probably one day he'd want to remarry me again.

Crazy huh? For a second, could any of you imagine ME doing that? Cooking my heart out like usual and having my xwh over for sunday dinners and long talks on the back porch? Huh? Could you see me letting him bring my then little boy over to his house with his mistress under same roof and put that little one to sleep there? Um whaaa?

And could you see me becoming buddy/buddy with the posow, monkeyho? Really.

This is the crap that does come out of a waywards' piehole.

But their end game is acceptance. Once you learn it, you RUIN their endgame with the affair. Ruin the h@ll outta it!

OMG Peachy, he WAS in la-la land. Sheesh!

Isn't it amazing how much most of them follow the same/similar script? Now that I'm so far removed from all of this, I can laugh.

I wish I had known back then that half the stuff my hubby said back then wasn't original or special. Maybe some newbies will read these and see the humor. I would imagine it would make it so much easier when dealing with a wayward to know that you CAN'T take every thing they say to heart. They're insane!

@Princess Meggy:

You know this is a lighter thread (dark though in reality) but the thing that is to be noted like you said, is the commonality of all the drivel they say.

I once had a counselor (the one I used for my personal recovery after the D) tell me that the reason my crazy xwh would say such things AND BELIEVE what he said was for this:

She said he could not find a way to logically wrap his mind around destroying what was a good marriage and family. He couldn't find a way to be able to cheat, have the fun and danger associated with the cheap thrills you get from new love affairs and balance that wish for thrills with the happiness and satisfaction he truly got from being at his home, with me, his wife, experiencing a more mature type of love, and of course, being at home enjoying being a father.

She told me my xh felt he was losing his "edge" as some guys do, and when they get really successful, or in other situations it is a tragic or sudden shock type of situation that makes them suddenly seek out these thrills, that they become a wayward.

But she said his saying he wanted me five minutes away literally meant that he didn't really want to end his marriage or his life. He wanted to have both, and he could not for his reality collided with the fantasy.

So PM, you're right. What they ALL say outta that piehole, is not original or new or even remotely creative. It is their way trying to mesh together their secret fantasy life and the illicit thrills it gives with their stable, more mature type of love in their marriage and the love of being a parent, which might not be sexy or glamorous, but is far better a choice.

The cheap thrills and the feeling you get when you meet somebody new is just that. Something new that won't last. Like my old counselor told me, "old friends are best because of the history and the TRUST." She told me you have this bond with those you really know and love and its' like that with a marriage partner when the marriage is basically good. It might not be new, sexy, and there might not be as many thrills, but it's better than a new relationship because of all of the love, trust, and time.

I think this is why all the affairs fall apart imho. It's because they are based on short-term and short-lived type of almost reptilian emotions. The most basic of feelings you get right after you meet somebody. Butterflies, the up and down rollercoaster type feelings.

Affairs aren't wired to last either. They lack the abiity to develop trust. After all, if your foundation is lies, how can you build upon that? Forever the om or ow with the married lover, even if the married lover divorces, they'll be looking behind each others' backs wondering if that will happen to them.

It is humorous and dark what the waywards say. It is almost nonsensical. Laughable in some instances, but they believe the drivel they're saying and want it so badly to be true.

You know, my xwh would have done anything to have had that fantasy come to life. I would have had to have, on the other hand, a lobotomy for that to even come to fruition.

Yup, you hit the nail on the head, "Everybody should love me, or fear me, or want to be me", they can't accept that they will never have that, or that the world would be a terrible place if it were so.

So many who work so hard to make the grade, end all of their struggles, do everything right, reach the top and have it all, and yet they don't realize they already do, and that tommorow there will be another challange.

Sounds like your XWH drank the ego kool-aid somewhere along the line. I don't know how or when, but the fantasy of having all the women love me, and all the men follow me and fear me,(Ya Know the teenage high school thing?), had taken him over from the head up, so to speak. If thats not the mindset of Ganstas and childish insecure tyrants, to want to have all the women drooling and waiting for my attention, well IDK, maybe I never had that Fantasy before myself, that when I grew up I laughed at, just like old porn movies used to have me bustin a gut.

Reminds me of how the love of money and how the gift of it can ruin people. XWH had a good job, was the deacon in a church, and it helped to destroy him. I allways thought money was a tool and not evil in itself, but if I ever had a lot of it, I would be careful in my stewardship of it. Now it seems XWH has been eaten alive by it and "All the things that money can buy", and is a shell of the Man he could be now.

He really doesn't know which way is up does he?


Oh yeah the Leann Whines thing, thats what happens when you worry more about what people think, than how to think. My late WW was like that, and wanted to be loved by everyone and constantly praised. Some of it had to do with a bad childhood I agree, but you should still know what is real and what is fake, specially if you are in the acting business.

In the spirit of the thread, she once said vehmently, "I am a representative of God on this earth, its important that people like me" welll..ooooKkkkkk.

How's this take on my exWW's attempt to fogbabble and gaslight the family court from the judge handling our divorce:

"The court aslso concludes that husband has established that wife and POSOM hold themselves out as a couple as the statute requires for the termination of an alimony obligation. In the November 2008 PFA hearing Wife testified that POSOM was her boyfriend and POSOM similarly testified wife was her girlfriend. At the ancilary hearing, wife explained that she was under extreme stress and likely could not have recalled the names of her own children at the PFA hearing due to her claims of husband's attorney's agressive nature. The court finds little credibility in Wife's explanation, given the fact that according to the hearing transcript, the attorney's inquiry as to whether POSOM was Wife's boyfriend was only the second question he posed to Wife after asking whether " You and PSUBIKER are currently in a divorce situation, is that correct?" The court fails to see any agressiveness in either of the first two questions posed to wife on cross examination and sincerely doubts that these questions caused wife to experience such extreme stress that she could not correctly recall whether POSOM was her boyfriend at the time. "

Hahaha!

That's gold, PSUBIKER, pure gold!

I'll add my WW's recent ramblings...
Her- you tell me you want to listen to me better but you should have stopped reaching out to my friends when I told you I was mad about Maid_of_honor finding out.
Me- staying silent wouldn't have ended the affair.
Her- no but it might have let me process before I talked to my friends instead of feeling attacked. The damage is done in both our parts.

I didn't reply but wanted to with saying, "oh by process do you mean justify the affair to your friends?"

Thats a good one, they wanted to spin the bullcrap thier way. Been there.

How about this..

After working two jobs and being the sole provider for over 15 years, when WW slips into addiction issues, and I get hurt on the job, she looks for a new host.

She tells her new druggie best Friends Forever, that "CP just can't take care of me anymore"

Even those guys saw right thru it. It was so Sad and painful to watch. That was the most frustrating time of my life. Totally helpless and hopeless.

Reminds me of "Justice Guy", the song by Stephen Lynch.

Here is an excerpt from the Song "Super Hero"
_________________________________________________



..Kids, You can make up your very own superhero
If you could, Who would it be?...


If I a superhero
Would you be justice guy
Making sure people get what they deserve
Especially women who lie
Like if a wife left her husband
With three kids and no job
To run off to Hawaii
With some doctor named bob
You can skin them and drain them of blood so they die
Especially bob
Then you would be justice guy
___________________________

And does this with a maniacal smile as he is singing Lol.

Oh my. I must find this song.

http://comedians.jokes.com/stephen-lynch/videos/stephen-lynch---superheroes/

Watch this one

My all time favourite was

You disappoint me, I thought you were more liberal than this. (After i said i was leaving due to the ginge)

That and all the guff about just friends, I needed a friend, like a sister, but I love her little girl, and the one about having been tryin to get out of it for the last 18 months but didn't want to hurt her. Ahhhh bless.

Thankfully I think the fog is clearing and things are better than ever!

Good one!

"the kids like her, they are just confused because you call her the mean lady"

Oh yes... it is the KIDS that are confused ...

"I did not have an affair , it was simply a relationship within a relationship"

I had to get him to look up the word affair in the dictionary before he finally agreed that sleeping with a coworker while still married to me IS an affair.

After exposure my WH says

"It is not like you to behave this way. I might have to go for custody of the kids because you are obviously unstable"

Thats right, it's me thats unstable. He is obviously behaving quite sensibly.

WW: I want to be single and move back to New York.

ME: You want to be a single mom with two kids in New York City? You can't afford it.

WW: I lived in NY by myself before.

ME: No you didn't. You had two roommates and no kids. And then you lived with me and I paid all the bills.

WW: See, you never believe in me.