Walked down to the beach this eve. Wife suggested a nice walk. Chilly but very nice! (MN beach you know. Probably still ice out on the lake)

Suggest a walk after dinn. No heavy talk. Just UA time. See how she felt through the day. What moved her today? Made her laugh? Frustrated? Content? Tell her something new you learned that interested you today.

Hey stretch- good to hear you had a good evening. Things are getting back on track, right?

Thanks for the tips, too. It's easy to forget, and a reminder always comes in handy!

Unfortunately, it's damn near 90 every day this week-- going for a "nice walk" is more akin to visiting a sauna.

Even after the sun starts to go down?

Man, its like the opposite of cabin fever for you down there. Up here, we are stuck in the house all winter. Down south, you get stuck in the house all summer.

I'm fixin' to spend the next 3 months outside the house as much as possible. Y'all.

You betcha. Ya sure.

Thank god for internet. The great staver-offer of cabin fever...

Hello Mr. Stretch!

Hope all is well on the homefront, and that's an admirable attempt that you made to talk like a native here. You even spelled y'all correctly...you make me so proud! (sniffle)

We spent Thursday-Sunday at a church retreat, had a great time and it was definitely a humbling experience. To spare readers the boring details, my wife finally talked about how she was only yesterday able to forgive herself. Though she hasn't really talked much about it, the guilt over everything was causing a great deal of turmoil within herself.

One of the speakers told of his ex-wife who divorced him for a OM. Then she left OM1 for OM2, married OM2 and then left OM2 for OM3. All the while, the speaker was trying to make sure their son was ok while living with the mother. My wife said she felt like it was a sign of where she almost went, and is so glad that she didn't got that route as she just *knew* that's how she would have ended up. I said my thinking was the opposite, how I had feared that I'd be like the guest speaker. It was a bittersweet moment for both of us.

It wasn't a "marriage" retreat and the speaker talking of this wasn't part of the "curriculum". The timing, however, couldn't have been better.

It sounded like she had one of those "at peace" moments...shoot, I think we both did. We both said that the weekend changed us for the better. It did.

Funny how we had to go through all this excrement to get our lives cleaned up.

My FWW has only to look at her own mother to know the wayward path...

I guess sometimes we need to be smelly and covered in crap to appreciate what clean really is?

update please....

hope y'all are doing well

Doing well, chickadee, and thanks for checking in.

We found a church we like, have met a lot of good people and kind of starting to feel alive again. This time last year wasn't that great and it seems like a long time ago and only yesterday all at once. I suspect that makes sense?

Overall, things are looking up and we both feel positive.

Did y'all get that trip planned? Less than a month and we're off to the beach for a week. It has hit 100 a few times this week already, kind of ready to feel an ocean breeze right about now.

that is great!! very happy for you.

busy strech at work for a few weeks. he has been planning a weekend but kinda quite about it, not being bossy and asking, just letting him surprise me.

still having nightmares.... hope they stop. no palps for a few days, so that good

Good to hear that the heart palpitations have passed. Hopefully the trip and just getting away from all the mess will help with the nightmares. One day at a time, right

Chickadee--

Would you mind dropping in here if you get a chance...

http://forum.marriagebuilders.com/u...flat&Number=2517609&#Post2517609

The poster has a WH with a truth-telling problem and I think she should try the phone counseling. Maybe you could offer some input?

will do now.

Thanks for posting to her-- she sounded kind of stuck, not sure what to do, and I understood that you guys had good results with the phone counseling.

Wow, chickadee, LOL, why don't you tell her what you *really* think!

I know how it is to be kind of stuck and hesitant, but, dammit, sometimes I just want to jump through the computer screen and tell the poor BS to quit letting their stupid wayward run the show!

UGGGHH!!!

i dont know enough yet but yes i can be a bitc --need sone vets to jump in on her, then I can take a step back, was i wrong? i was much luckier with my WH, i had no long term draggin it out WH crap, he was a wham bam thank you mam guy, beyond too mant times- if not i would have been arrested.. and dating by now.. ha !

Not in my book! I really think she should tell her husband to cut the crap, get the Harleys on the phone and get a plan together before her WH goes astray again.

Aren't you the one that threw a roll of toilet paper at your H?

proudly! a roll of charmin i might add - no crappy tp ( tee hee) and a renewal wedding gown, oh yeah i was reminded by H that t also threw a FULL bottle of wine, at the wall, same night- blocked it out- not.. i just didng aim fo him at all., but i also cleaned it up. i remember that, not a proud moment again.

look into

http://forum.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2517848#Post2517848

being a bit of bich tonight- guess i am getting back to myself... im really not mean

Not hardly...just someone that has a certain perspective and doesn't want to see someone else go through it.

Hey NW!

Your thread was getting all musty smelling and there was a ton of dust on it!

Just checking in for a status update... Last post here was over a month ago...

Assuming that no news is GOOD news right?

Let us know how things are going with you and your (hopefully) FWW

NW - yeah, I agree with TimB. What's up with you? I'll also assume it's good news.