Good luck, ascending.

t/j: Painful, can you explain this on your own thread? Why did someone come after you?

Is he in the Marine Corps? They have a zero tolerance policy.


Never mind, I see many good folks are already on top of this!
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Okie dokie.....I see I'm not the only that thought this comment was kind of odd. Almost asked him the same thing you asked about it but, but being a newbie, thought I may be reading too much into things.

The comment does beg the question though

mb: A family member of mine was in an accident with someone on my ship. That individual, whom I knew (loosely) was drunk. When the family member asked what to do I said to call the CO. They called, the individual was called out by the CO. It later resulted in disciplinary action. Somewhere along the line they said that my family member called the CO and the individual was upset enough to threaten to come after me.

You can delete after reading as this is OT.

I am a retired Army first sergeant and a former Inspector General. Here is what you do (listen VERY closely and then report back once you have done this!):

1. Contact the Fort Hood Inspector General's office. Here is the contact page: http://www.hood.army.mil/corps.hotline.aspx

2. Tell them you want to make an IG complaint against a Staff Sergeant who is in a Fort Hood unit. Tell him/her what you know, name, rank. The situation. Give them whatever intel you may have (they may want a copy of emails, pictures, etc).

3. Listen to them and respond with any information they ask for that you have. Let them know you expect something be done and that the Army do what they have to in order to keep this POS NCO away from your wife and family. And that includes online contact!

Now understand, since you are not military, they will tell you thank you, and that they will look into this but cannot report back to you what happens...privacy rights!

But you will know IMMEDIATELY that you have hit a homerun when your wife goes NUCLEAR after he lets her know that he was jerked into the commander's office because there is an IG complaint against him.

Sometimes, if a commander likes an NCO, he might sweep things under the rug. But since you registered an IG complaint...he will have to do things BY THE BOOK. And that commander will have to report back to the IG his findings and what he did about it.

No commander likes the IG looking over his shoulder so that captain is going to be ticked off. And as a former first sergeant, I can tell you...much pain awaits this staff sergeant!!

Do this NOW (tomorrow). Then report back what you said and what happens.

And then when it goes nuclear...let us know.

You are actually in a great spot. Unlike the civilian world, where we let people abuse others through adultery...the military does not allow this. It is against the law. and they CAN force him to cease contact with your wife!

And if he doesnt? Then he breaks another regulation (disobeying a direct order). And that will land his butt in a world of hurt he wont want to have.

Do this now!

Okay.

Thanks Mortarman!

Since I don't have any "proof" other than what my wife has told me and a phone conversation with OM, I was thinking of telling OM that I will contact the IG at FT Hood, along with all his friends and family, unless I get a message from the OM, within the next 48 hours. This message MUST state explicitly that he is sorry for sleeping with my wife, after she told him that she was married and had a 7 year old boy, and promising to never contact her again. That way, if this doesn't work out with my WW I will at least have some written admission of the affair from the OM.

I would contact the IG. Inlike the JAG (legal), the IG doesnt need "beyond a reasonable doubt." Instead, it is "preponderence of the evidence." They WILL look into your issue, even if you only have circumstantial evidence. Just the mere fact they are looking into it, and the commander knows...will force him to fly right and treat your wife like the plague.

Call them.

Thank you! I will do just that regardless of what I hear back from ***edit***

You can always get a VAR and record a conversation you have with your WW discussing the A.

She does not seam to mind talking about it with you and you can use the recording as evidence of the A to use for OM exposure and as safety net for you should you get a divorce.

Lastly I would not reccomend givign the OM any hint or notice that you intend to contact his superiors. Exposure needs to be done without forewarning and definitely won't be as effective if you threaten OM with it first. It needs to come as a surprise slap in the face kinda thing.

You need to get tested for STD's.

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I wish you luck.

I would not do this. Because you will be giving the OM your battle plan and he can pre-empt you. ["crazy jealous husband...."] It is better to expose the affair wide and far and force him to defend it. Catch him by surprise. If he denies the affair it will upset your wife. Don't give your battle plan to the enemy and don't lose the surprise element.

Threatening to expose is a strategic mistake that rarely works. IT just gives the enemy your battle plan and helps the affairees go further underground.

I am very concerned that you are dragging your feet on this exposure. Exposure needs to be done very close together in order to be effective. Please move forward and finish exposing this affair TODAY.

You already have proof of the affair. Your wife has confessed it. That is all you need.

Ascending,

You've gotten your battle plan from Mortarman do not show it to OM. Mortarman gave you the coordinates now put that shell right on target.

God Bless
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OK just got off the phone with the IG for all of Fort Hood. He basically said that a few emails between them MIGHT inspire them to contact his CO about this. At this point I don't have even that. He said the best evidence would be photos of them in the act. The next best would be them standing in front of the CO admitting to it. Next best after that is signed notarized statements from both of them admitting to it. Way down the list (which he refused to continue on down) are emails and FB messages.

I would contact Dr Harley at the radio station and tell him this. [you can email him at http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi4200_radio.html] He is in contact with military officials and they are very interested in stopping affairs.

In the meantime, I would expose the affair to the OM's facebook friends, especially his parents. Keep working on killing the affair!

Ascending,

Remember what Mortarman said to you? That they will seem stand-offish? Don't think notification of this isn't having an effect. The truth is, you simply don't know. There is a good chance he picked up the phone and called this man's CO and asked him to check into this.

What evidence do you have that can be sent to them again? Do you have anything besides verbal confirmation yet?

If you have it on VAR, I would send a copy of it certified to the IG along with any written info you can collect (emails, FB etc). Even better if you get VAR recording of her using his name in the conversation.

I would also add this:

Do you know anyone of rank in the Army? Sometimes you can get some pressure added by asking a friend to call the IG or his CO as well. A friendly call can go a long way in the military. My BIL is a Marine officer and has offered to help me with a phone call or two when we counseled with a Marine couple dealing with affairs.

I don't have anything but WW telling me about this.
I have no recordings. There are messages on her phone, but she has it on her 24-7. Any other way I can access them?
I will try and see if I know anyone of rank in the military. Is there any way I can get to his CO myself? Are there any insignia on a uniform ( I do have pictures of him in uniform) that can help me? In the message that I send out to his FB list I will ask them for his CO's contact information.

If you know who the CO is, you can definitely talk to him yourself. The uniforms do have insignia on the collar, sleeve or chest if they are wearing a flak jacket.