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We're Harley-ites. We're loud. We're proud. Get used to it. Amen!
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I simply never could do what happened to me to another human being. Not even the one who inflicted it on me.
But most especially I wouldn't do it to myself or to my future prospects for fidelity.
What would you do if you were not afraid?
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.
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If He/She is willing to cheat with someone, then the will be willing to cheat on that person too.
Stop the false God based blessings on your actions. It's pathetic and a slap in realities face.
Anybody can manipulate and justify why they are doing something wrong, even violating the Commandments, just as you have done.
What can someone learn from you?
They can see how easily denial and self justifications can allow themselves to hurt others and glorify their sin.
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It used to make me really angry when separated people would approach me on dating site in spite of my outspoken profile preferences. How DARE they approach me as a mistress to get entangled in marital problems. likely never been able to have been freed . Ugh. Disgusting. Men who have no interest in 'freeing' themselves like big boys remain in contact with their wives in a high conflict and abusive way.
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What would you do if you were not afraid?
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.
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The psycho-analyzing on this thread is insightful for me. Everyone always knows what they think is best for another person. I'm not claiming that at all. I'm just saying what was right for me, that's all. For others out there going through all manner of issues in their relationships, perhaps my story may give them some comfort and encouragement. I'm a Harley-ite too. Don't forget that. :-)
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It's disheartening for someone who claims to be a supporter of the kinds of healthy relationships Dr. Harley promotes, would find it disgusting that I would desire to be free of an abuser. To me, criticizing another person for exercising the courage to stand up against societal taboos in order to do the right thing is rather disgusting.
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If you know what's best for you get on with it and stop protesting so much here where your actions are abhorrent.
This isn't the place for accepting adultery.
Try asking Dr H how Harley-ite your affair is.
What would you do if you were not afraid?
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.
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The psycho-analyzing on this thread is insightful for me. Everyone always knows what they think is best for another person. I'm not claiming that at all. I'm just saying what was right for me, that's all. For others out there going through all manner of issues in their relationships, perhaps my story may give them some comfort and encouragement. I'm a Harley-ite too. Don't forget that. :-) Not if you believe that your affair was justified, and not if you believe that your affair will lead to lasting happiness, you are not. Dr Harley would never say a thing like that.
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It's disheartening for someone who claims to be a supporter of the kinds of healthy relationships Dr. Harley promotes, would find it disgusting that I would desire to be free of an abuser. To me, criticizing another person for exercising the courage to stand up against societal taboos in order to do the right thing is rather disgusting. I freed myself from an abuser. I didn't become one in the process.
What would you do if you were not afraid?
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.
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What would you do if you were not afraid?
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I think you have more of the same coming your way. ***EDIT***
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I'm a Harley-ite too. Don't forget that. Dr. Harley would never approve of your affair.
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I think you have more of the same coming your way. ***EDIT*** OK. Have a nice weekend OB.
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What would you do if you were not afraid?
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I think you have more of the same coming your way. ***EDIT***
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Prisca, you flatter me. 
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What would you do if you were not afraid?
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It's disheartening for someone who claims to be a supporter of the kinds of healthy relationships Dr. Harley promotes, would find it disgusting that I would desire to be free of an abuser. To me, criticizing another person for exercising the courage to stand up against societal taboos in order to do the right thing is rather disgusting. Do you actually have a question for us or just to stir things up?
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Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.
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And say something encouraging and positive, for God sakes. OB, you've said that before, and we have replied: we are NEVER going to say anything positive or encouraging about adultery!
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This thread has become a distraction. Let's get back to Marriage Building.
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