I am not sure which world he lives in, but it doesn't sound like anyplace I have ever lived.

You know this might be the end of your M. I imagine you have already thought about all the possibilities and prepared yourself in many ways.

I know that emotionally it is almost impossible to prepare for - because it's often just not real until sometime after the D is final.

I know you have prayed to know what to do, I believe you will get help. I know it's hard, and no matter what I say it will continue to be hard, but I have faith in YOU. Somewhere, down the road, there is happiness in your future if you continue to try, and don't give up on God, or yourself. I hope you can "see" it out there on the horizon, and that you keep working for it.

God be with you.

SS

Thank you SS
Tomorrow is moving day <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

Today my D called me at work and said that her aunt had phoned and that all my H's family knows what happened.I guess when my son(18yr old)went to his grandmas he told her that we were splitting up because his dad had a girlfriend.Well he did not have all the facts right but remember he uses drugs <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> but anyway they called my D to see what was going on because they did not believe my son.
My H called me and said his mom called him today.Nobody wants to believe that my H did this,they are all shocked.

Today is a hard day.............

I can only hope and pray for happiness,will my M end now,I dont know time will tell.

Hey ginger no advice just hope things work out for you. ((hugs))

Here's hoping today is a much better day. Here's some words of wisdom from Omar Khayyan who lived about a 1000 years ago in Iran. It talks about the importance of the now in a person's life:

"The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all your Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it "

Wayne Dyer gives an analogy from this about the wake of a boat and asks if the wake (the past) or the engine (the present) drives the boat (life). Of course the engine does.

My point is learn from your past but don't let it steer your boat. Drive your boat towards the glorious horizon (the future) with happiness in your heart. You've done so well Ginger. You may feel scarred and emotionally weary. But you are in charge of your boat. Go for it. Enjoy the adventure. Please remember to write us a postcard sometime.

I wish smooth sailing no matter where you go.

Hey Ginger,

What's going on? Where are you? How are you?

Wondering how moving went.

How the job is going.

How the grand kids are.

How Ginger is.

Hoping H gets it, and does what is needed.

Praying for all of you.

SS

The last thing I heard from Gingersnap was that it might take her a couple of weeks to get her phone lines on and internet access for her computer.

She was hoping to use a laptop but since I haven't heard from her yet, I assmue that plan feel through.

I do hope she is doing well and she is enjoying her new independance and that her H is missing her terribly. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

To all inquiring about Ginger -
I spoke with her yesterday. She is doing well with her new job and home. Her H was planning on coming up last night, and Ginger was struggling with some anger and reluctance about seeing him -

Unfortuately, her H still doesn't get it , and continues to blame her for his life, all he's done, etc.

Ginger is staying strong and focused, and hopes to be online real soon. She is a strong lady and knows how many are praying for her and supporting her.

She wanted me to forward this info to everyone, and she misses all of you.

Thanks MO1,

And how are you doing these days?

SS

ty, SS, for asking - life here is stressful - H just lost his job, so I am overwhelmed with this now.

In one sense, losing this job, his cell - elimates any contact w/ OP via work/cell. For this I feel relieved - always that 'nagging' gut feeling since verbal conversations btw them happened mostly at work. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

Yes I realize there are 'other ways' for contact, but his work place held many bad memories for me. I'm not sure yet of God's chosen path for me/us, but I pray daily for strength and guidance. I know God will not turn His back on me - but all the "setbacks" are so overwhelming at times, I question if God "forgot" about me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

I will be speaking w/ Ginger in the next day or so, so I will keep updating everyone about her.

Thanks again for inquiring about me, SS - I pray all is going well for you -

I got an e-mail from Ginger,

Most Mom already told you.

H is there, sort of, all the anger came back that she felt before.

As mom said, H does not get it. Thinks she should just get over it.

Please pray for strength for Ginger - i just spoke w/ her and she found evidence of renewed/continued contact btw her WH and the OW - <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

She needs more strength now from her friends -

I kept wondering how come he didn't seem concerned by her moving out. Now it makes more sense. Looks like he is still getting needs met in more than one place, so he doesn't worry about it.

We'll pray for Ginger at our house too. And whoever talks to her, tell her we are thinking about her.

MomOf1,
It sounds like things are tough at your house too, and you could use some prayer in your behalf too.

I am sorry about H loosing his job. This is not the best job market, and even a few weeks without can really hurt.

I'm not sure yet of God's chosen path for me/us, but I pray daily for strength and guidance. I know God will not turn His back on me - but all the "setbacks" are so overwhelming at times, I question if God "forgot" about me.

I don't understand the reasons for everything that happens to me, but every time I look back, I see God has always been there, sometimes in the shadows, but always there. I know he is keeping you in rememberence too.

It has to be hard, because after all that has happened, it would be nice to get a rest - even a little one. I used to dream of living a fairy tale - you know, fame and fortune. Now I am glad for my own troubles, because even though they are difficult, they are mine, and they fit somehow. I believe if we trust to God's help, and do all we can, both your family, and mine will make it through our trials.

Thanks again for inquiring about me, SS - I pray all is going well for you -

Just the normal stuff, some good, some bad - you know, real life. We are mostly happy, most of the time. I haven't missed any meals lately, and the car is paid for - even if it is old, and has high miles. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

We'll pray for you too, so that you will know God hasn't forgotten you.

Sue,
I'll come to your thread and talk a little.

SS

ty SS, for your kind words and prayers -

God Bless -

Dear Momof1, and Ginger,
I pray for courage and endurance for both of you,
Ginger, I admire and support the brave steps you took.
I know it will work out for you long term, and I pray for short term results too.
FBOW

Hi

Please let Ginger know that my thoughts go with her. She has had a long hard path to travel and now this set back. She is well rid of him, he cares for no-one but himself.

She deserves better and a life she can enjoy.

She will be in my prayers also.

Love

Hello All,
Well I have been here 2wks it does not seem possible.The first week or so was so busy getting the new place set up and the stress of the new job but that is all behind me now.

My D turned 16 last tues.she went and got job applications on wed and was hired for her first job last thurs.she is so excited,she misses her friends but seems to be doing ok.She just wants to drive all the time and I am not use to this city traffic so this is more stressful on me than her...LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

As for me,I feel empty inside today,I see that momof1 posted the latest of what has gone on.
Yes my H came for his first visit since I moved told me he was going to spend every minute of the day w/me and not let me out of his site.Well the first night he got there he drank so much he passed out on the sofa,same old story.The next day he left to go work w/his brother all day,it felt like the same old thing,putting me last on his list.The next morning we got up were having some coffee and talking a bit and he decided to go out side, for some reason I went thru his wallet and yes I found HER work phone number.I called her H asked him if he could verify a # for me and he said thats her work # why???? I said I just found this in his wallet,I went outside and confronted him,he told me she had called him a few weeks ago.He had been accusing me of talking with someone one now I know it must have been his guilt that brought that on.We had a fight I told him to leave me alone and to get out of my house,he packed up and left.

I called OW that night and she denied that she had spoken w/him,but I know for a fact that number was not there a month ago because I always checked and the card I found it on had been in his wallet for some time with nothing on the back before.I'm sure she will call again the next night that she works,oh well I wish them the best of luck.

So this is my life right now.
I feel very lonely,but there is a part of me that is happier.To be honest I was doing fine before his visit I even asked him not to come that I was not ready to see him but like everything in our life what I want and need are not important it is all about him.

I should be back online by next week they messed up my order and it is taking forever.I will write when I can and once again thank you so much everyone for all your support.
Especially my dear friend momof1 who lets me call her no matter what. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

yes my friend, I am always here for you - I know you will come online soon (hooray!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> ) - as soon as the phone company figures out how to "turn on a switch" for your phone!! lol

For those wondering about Ginger, I spoke with her this afternoon, and she sounds good. Strong, focused and relaxed. She will do great - I believe in her and what she can do in life!

She just needs a little "kick start" to believe in herself. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
I also want pics of the "new hairdo" my friend! I love you! I'm here for you - always -

Ginger has a phone now, she does not have internet yet. She is frustrated with that. She's told one thing, and then told another later on.

She sounds good, and she is doing okay.

Hopefully she will be online soon

Please let Ginger we love her and are proud of what she's doing.