Welcome to the
Marriage Builders® Discussion Forum

This is a community where people come in search of marriage related support, answers, or encouragement. Also, information about the Marriage Builders principles can be found in the books available for sale in the Marriage Builders® Bookstore.
If you would like to join our guidance forum, please read the Announcement Forum for instructions, rules, & guidelines.
The members of this community are peers and not professionals. Professional coaching is available by clicking on the link titled Coaching Center at the top of this page.
We trust that you will find the Marriage Builders® Discussion Forum to be a helpful resource for you. We look forward to your participation.
Once you have reviewed all the FAQ, tech support and announcement information, if you still have problems that are not addressed, please e-mail the administrators at mbrestored@gmail.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#62903 07/17/03 08:11 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1
G
g-man Offline OP
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
G
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1
i blew it and weakend to porn last yr. Admitted it and weve been to counseling alot. We are christians and ive repented and have been trying very hard to amend things. She just cant get passed it all and treats it like adultery. Im about at my wits end and dealing with my needs not being met too. She has a big wall up. Im real afraid of both our vulnerabilities right now. Could use some thots/advise? Anyone else been there?

#62904 07/20/03 12:36 AM
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 482
Q
Member
Offline
Member
Q
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 482
Dear G-man,

Sorry for your troubles, but I can identify. My wife gets on me about pornography. My wife follows many right-wing Christian ideas.

The wall seems to be a fairly clear definition of a problem, but you need to start building some avenues for effectively making deposits in the love bank.

Another way to view the problem is that your wife is refusing to gie you credit for the deposits you are making into her love bank. Maybe 4 to 6 weeks ago, there was a post in Negotiations about Turn 180 Degrees. I responded to it, it was posted by Toomuchcoffeeman.

The idea is to get a fresh approach for your spouse to start thinking about things in a new way.

One of the main negotiations might be viewed as a problem in seduction.

It seems that your wife wants to hold on to this power to make you feel guilty. Some Christians seem more intersted in finding ways to make others feel guilty. My approach is to try to find a suitable pennance, a genuine petition for forgiveness, or absolution and forgiveness, with forgetting.

I'll run a stream of consciousness of ideas for you, and maybe something will click for you. I have not looked for any other of your posts.

Try to find your wife's ideal time of arrousal. My wifes' is in the range of 12:30 am to 3 AM.

Off the internet, I bought some massage tapes. Get a supply of baby oil, and I use a freshly worn colored T-shirt to wipe off the oil. Massage is a path to arrousal. What is the minimal level of participation your wife is wiling to allow in various settings? Will any of the settings work for you to climax?

See if she will go to a different church. I like Unitarian churches for not being overly dogmatic.

Use influential relatives. Keep your relations up with her influential relatives, at least, and if they know, you may ask for their help in bringing your wife back from the deep-end.

I try to keep my masturbation to a minumum, and limit it to times when it is not likely to interfere with being ready for my wife.

I ordinarily try to be a nice person, but if I start losing my temper, I try to get said what was bothering me, and then go to a neutral location. Leaving in a tither gives her something specific to think about.

Change counselors. Prepare to be stern with the couhselor that you have, and be prepared to forcefully state your beliefs about God and Jesus and Pornography, forginess and marriage. I have occasionally been stern with marriage counselors in the past, and it has usually been a turn-on for my wife.

Buy a dog, or other pet. Ask your wife what you both can agree to do differently, POJA. Take her out to dinner. Take parenting or self-improvement courses together. Take her on a dinner cruise. Change around the things you often do for her, and the things you usually leave for her to do. Find little wasy to demonstrate power.

Find videos that will work for her and you. My wife usually tolerates the movie DIRTY DANCING. Maybe Dracula movies.

Instead of worrying, start changing things around, until things get straightened out.

Check to see if some other individuals are giving her support on emotionally deserting you. If you suspect someone, encourage her to role play a conversation with that person, having her tell the person that she is going to forgive you, and you, as a couple, are going to go on with normal relations. There has to be some outside influence in this, because it is so stupid. My wife is weekly coming under the influence of some new set of ideas that somone has convinced her aaare essential to her salvation, and I spend every week applying logic to the ideas she has picked up from others, and slowly getting her mind off those ideas. Of course new ideas keep coming in, so I have new ideas to contend with each week, as well as the thoughts left over from the last few weeks.

What I like about Unitarians is that they believe that individuals are capable of deciding which religious teachings to apply to their lives, at what times. Many other religions are trying to tell people which religious prinnciples they should apply to their lives.

I'll look to see if you have othe relucidating posts.

In the movie K-Pax, the vistor from another Galaxy says something like, "All beings know right from wrong. There is no need to punish people or put people in jail."

Sometimes I prefer to just presume that I will be getting a divorce soon, just for my own mental outlook.

You may need forgiveness again in the future, and this may be a sign to look for a situation that is different from being married to an unforgiving woman.

Best wishes,

Quipper
Married 28 years and still struggling.


Moderated by  Fordude 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Search
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 611 guests, and 47 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Bibbyryan860, Ian T, SadNewYorker, Jay Handlooms, GrenHeil
71,838 Registered Users
Building Marriages That Last A Lifetime
Copyright © 1995-2019, Marriage Builders®. All Rights Reserved.
Site Navigation
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5