Bogus,<P>The holidays remind us all of our families, and you have it really bad, my friend. With so many significant days around the winter season, you have every reason to feel bummed. I admire you for "plugging away until the bitter end" but this time of year has GOT to be hard on you.<P>Nope, I don't think any of us ever get over our former spouses. We don't forget and we don't stop having a little bit of hurt either, no matter how many years go by and no matter whether we meet someone new or not. That's not the point. We remember, feel some sorrow about it, learn, grow, and keep on living. Speaking only for myself, I have great regrets and great sorrow, and this time of year seems to bring it out. But I also learned so much from this experience! I wish I had had the chance to practice some of what I've learned, but I may not have learned some of it without being on my own. I don't want the make the same mistakes again. <P>During the holidays, I try to do things that I have never done before, so that I am making a new memory rather than reliving an old memory that I'll never have back. I cry a little when a day that used to be special between us goes by as a regular day now. But I also have started new special days. For example, today was the anniversary of meeting someone very special to me, so I let myself feel a little happy today.<P>One last thing, come back to this forum and share with us all your ups and downs. We'll party with you when you're feeling up and doing better, and we'll cry with you and hug you when you're feeling down. <P>{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{bogus}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}<P>CJ<P>------------------<BR>Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it.