Hiding assets, or creative accounting to save family funds from leaving the family is important to many. I'm sure each state is different, so a good laywer will be able to help you here.

Separate on paper, quit claim deeds (as below),etc. They are all legal. Don't ever allow emotions to control your finances.

I know that some will see this as being unfair to the OC. So be it. None of this is fair and my children are innocent too.

But in many cases, the BW is sitting around feeling sorry for herself. Don't. Get out and get moving. Find out your rights. Do not spend the next 18 years of your life with someone else in control. Defend your home,your kids and yes, that means finances.

Some see this as bitter and mean spirited. Sorry, I don't see it that way. Maybe a BW who stands up and fights back terrifies some. My children come first. Their needs supercede any needs of the OW and her child.

My H and OW made that child, my kids will not pay for it. My H pays child support. But through the efforts of our attorney, all increases to salary are now paid out on a consulting basis, or sent directly to a retirement account. Retirement funds can't be touched. This is perfectly legal.

I know many feel it is unfair and cruel. However, this whole situation is cruel and hurtfull to many. The actions of the UH/OW have huge ripple effect. The OW see it as horribly unfair to her child to be denied. But what did they think? Is the UH supposed to welcome this child with open arms and embrace it? What about his wife and children at home? Their feelings matter too. I am sick to death of reading these OW saying that it is reality, and how the BW has to accpet the OC. Well the OW has to accept that the BW has a voice. She has feelings. She has rights. I read where OW do not want BW anywhere near the OC,as if the only person with rights is the OW. COME ON, GET REAL. The OW has to accept that her child, if the MM wants contact, will be involved with the BW.

Meandering here. Part of the destruction brought on by the EMR is that the OC will not necessarily be thought of in endearing terms. That the BW, by placing her childrens needs first, will probably "screw" the oc. To bad. That is the reality of the situation. The OW have to realize this. The reality is that the laws allow us to do such. The reality is that we, as a couple worked hard and your child will not benefit from it. CS is not a benefit, but necessary. Of that I would never disagree.

I am saddened by how many wives on here feel they don't have a voice. While you are going through this, you have a right to be heard. If your H insists on contact and you feel you just can't, tell him. Get the laywer, get CS for your kids, etc. Cause if he is willing to go against your wishes, again, your marriage will not likely last. POJA is a good idea. Both have to be on board or it is not a marriage.

I am saying protect yourselves. Don't sit back and be a victim. Fight back. Don't allow events to unfold without your active participation. It unerves people, to bad. This is your life. Your one and only life. Live it without hassles.

If you and your husband chose to participate in the life of OC. So be it. Just make sure that you are doing it cause you want to, not because anyone pressured you to. Look. We all know OC is innocent of any wrong doing. There is a reality here. The same reality that OW insist that the BW accept the situation, works the other way. OW has to accept that her child, no matter who the father is, in some cases is not going to be welcomed into the family, or ever become a part of it, etc.

Protecting assets is not greedy, it is not mean,it is vital to the financial well being and future of your family. Why do you take deductions at tax time? CAUSE IT IS LEGAL.

Don't allow soem OW or your UH or anyone ever tell you to handle finances with your emotions. That is the dumbest thing you could ever do. It is not wrong to protect your finances. You have insurance don't you? Isn't that to protect your financial future? When it comes to money, always use your head, never your heart.

Don't ever be afraid to stick up for yourself and your life and your children and your finances and your future. You have rights too. You have feelings that are just as valid as anyone else's in this mess. Don't allow anyone to tell you how you have to feel.

People on here think I am angry and bitter cause I protect my children? Cause I don't give a damm about OW? Maybe my words are not politically correct and coddling to some. Maybe my cavalier attitude to OC bothers others. But there is a reality here. This is my life, I am living it. I am not allowing some OW and the OC to direct how I live. I am working hard to save money for the future. If I am gone, then, making darn sure my children are taken care of. That is reality.

Lynn,

I've read and re-read your posts, and I keep coming back to the same question. Why are you here? Are you seeking help in re-building your marriage and moving past this low point in your life, or are you trying to incite more nagative behavior? If I'm wrong, I sincerely apologize, but I think the latter is true. You're getting so wrapped up in your anger that you can't see anything beyond it. As a result, your inciteful posts could drag other posters down into that same pit of rage and despair you're wallowing in. I honestly cannot see how this is going to help you heal. Short term, your actions may give you some satisfaction, but long term, I see your anger and vengeance eating you up. I hope you want more for yourself than what your posts here are exhibiting.

Respectfully,
OB1

I'm here cause I was asked to come here and read. Read how some wives were hurting and confused. Reading where OW were here telling them that they had to accept this or that, and if they didn't they were horrible people. etc.

I'm sorry if you are offended or find my behavior angry. I am years past this and into it. I am very sad to see so many women here, thinking that if they stand up and say "no" they will get trampled on. I am here to tell them that while this is a blow, it can be ok. That you don't have to take this sitting down. That you can stand up and fight for your rights. That just because some OW wants things to go someway, that you have no choice.

Many people are paying huge amounts of CS because they did nothing to protect themselves early on. They were burned cause they were to emotional. Either that or they tried to handle this alone and be nice, only to get burned later. To many husbands think they can keep this quiet and send a check to OW and all will go away. Only to, as usual, get burned later. By knowing what is legal and what is allowable, a couple can make decisons that stick. They don't have to worry about OW going off deep end and hitting them again and again.

Why is that seen as angry and bitter? Is it cause it scares people that there are alternatives out there? I just feel that BW need to know there are options out there. That they are not stuck in some hole. That they can make some choices.

Coddling is nice, blaming OW and whining about what has happend, etc. But there is a reality to deal with. At some point when the anger clears and one starts thinking again, it might be to late to protect your own childrens financial future. Do it now. What is so bitter about that?

Whoa, Lynn. I never said “bitter”, nor am I offended. I do perceive your posts as being full of much anger and a need to strike back. Believe me, I fully understand those emotions. I guess I’m just leery and concerned because up until recently, there was no LynnG. Then, suddenly, you come out swinging. Your posts are very strong…which is not necessarily a bad thing. However, you’re dispensing advice that, if not handled properly, could get some folks into some legal trouble. That worries me.

You say that you were asked to come here and read? Would it be too intrusive of me to ask you to share your story?

OB1

I do understand protecting your assests when it comes to the money hungry OW. You say to hide this and that so the UH has to pay the bare minumim to support the oc he helped create. You don't want your kids to know what has happen and to protect them. All I see is more lying, sneeking and deceiving going on. Letting hatred consume your life.

I was a BW and choose to make my marriage work. My H has a oc. I choose to put the hate behinde me for the sake of all involved and act like an adult in the siutation. I took a step back and thought about the child that was being brought into the situation. I didn't give a damn what the OW thought, about her being pissed cause H decided to stay with me, or that she didn't want me involved with the oc. I bought some baby stuff and gave it to her. After the baby was born I sent a card congradulating her. I buy presents for him on his birthday and christmas. On halloween and someother holidays I bring little gift baskets to him. I do nothing for OW, but for the child. My children know they have a brother and would like to know him better.

As for the OW, at one point she threaten my H to take him for what she could get. She didn't get far. She gets $69 a week in child suppor and health inurance for the oc. Right now she is trying to have another kid by another MM thinking she can get more. The only one who is suffering is the oc. He has a whore for a mother and father who doesn't give a damn about him.

As for the XMM and I. Being the OW in this case, I guess I better get my but into gear. I never went after him for cs. At the time of our daughters birth he owned his own business and had a side job. From what some have told me I could have gotten about a $1000 a month from him. I didn't want a dime. I let his W be around when he had his visits. She ruined that by threatening my daughter and having me attacked while holding my dughter. This past winter I gave her another chance on being around the kids. They are divorced but I thought that since they are still living together I would try. She put a good game face on for awhile then started with the threats again. So when it comes to OW controlling the visits with oc, this OW does the same as any mother would do. XMM asked me when he can see the kids and take them. It is normally on his terms, not mine. The only thing I say is the XW can not be around. If you seen and heard her, you would understand.

So enough with the rambeling. Not all OW go after everything. In these situations the best thing to do is act like an adult. If you want to stay and work on your marriage, great. But you can't demand this and that. Both have to make compermises to make things work.

I was told by a regular here to come and read. I have to get her permission before I tell who she is.

I have continually said to hire an attorney, get an attorney, do this legal. Virtually in every one of my messages. That is in the best interest of everyone.

$69.00 a week? Good deal. Had we not taken legal action, we would be paying close to that per day.

Everyone is differnt, every OW is different. Just because on BW decides that contact is ok, not all are able or want to do that. HEre, there are lots of women who seem to think it is horrifying to actually say no. That suddenly it is "adult" to have contact, yet immature, and bitter and angry to chose no contact. That is the exact reason why I was told to read here. How some women want nothing to do with OC and OW and the whole mess. I'm here to say "hell ya" you can have that and it is ok. That is what you chose.

I am sickened to think how many women came here for help and were told that to be "adult" they had to have contact. It does not have to be that way.

As for your children. Before any of this was ever worked it's way out. My husband and I had decided on no contact. We spoke with our children and they were angry, embarrased and hurt. They did not want to meet, see, hold or even know OC. They were ashamed of the whole mess. My children were upset. That made the decision very easy to have no contact. This was a family decision. Are your kids able to say what is really on their minds? Or are they expected to sit and smile and say "dad cheated mom, cheated us, and hey, thats ok, bring little bobby?" Are you sure they are able to vent their true feelings?

I think some wives are afraid to vent what is really on their minds for fear of their husbands being angry. Well who cares? He cheated on you, if this isn't time to stand up for yourself when is? If you don't want to see the oc, that is ok.

I am going to leave this board for a while. It upsets me to see wives, with OC on the way being told to stick their heads in the sand and not protect finances, or their husband will see THEM as money hungry? This man cheats and now some poor wife is worried that he will think poorly of her if she protects what is rightfully hers? How horrible. How sad. How scary.

So, I will take my "anger" (LOL) and leave. For those of you who saw my advice for what it was intended, be strong and live well.

LynnG - I am sorry to see you leave. If you still have me email address, I hope you will still contact me. I would like to ask you some questions. Thanks. lola19632003@yahoo.com

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Everyone is differnt, every OW is different. Just because on BW decides that contact is ok, not all are able or want to do that. HEre, there are lots of women who seem to think it is horrifying to actually say no. That suddenly it is "adult" to have contact, </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I completly agree. Not all OW all money grubbing whores, as not all BW are shrewes. And every situation is different. What is good for one may not be good for another. As for being adult, I don't think its being adult by having contact. I'm talking about being adult handeling the situation. If the OW is going nuts trying to controll the situation demanding things, this is not acting like and adult. Same goes for the BS/US.

And I definalty agree with you when more woman need to stand up and not let these men walk all over them. It took till after my affair to learn to stand up for myself and what I believe in my marriage. So sad it took an affair on my behalf to wake me up. Till my affair when I learned of the guilt and stuff, I thought it was ok for my H to go screw around and make me feel guilty for what he did. Not no more. I will not accept the mistake of what I did and I will no longer accept my H doing it either.

As for my children knowing the oc, I think that at the age, they were to young to understand. Know when they are asked if they want to see oc, if they say no, then I don't force the issue. I do make it a family decision on things.

Crazymum;
It sounds like lynn only sees and reads the parts she wants to. I understood every word of your posts. Some of what she says needs to be very carefully considered due to half of what she is saying is a "loophole" versus "the law". If you get caught hiding assests the judge is not only going to make you pay more to OW but also you have to pay to the courts as well. No one is saying don't get an attorney heck after I'll I've read I think ALL parties need to get one and protect there butts. Crazy, Lynn has no problem being decetfull which only tells me she is NO better than the OW who is out there trying to take every dime that is not coming to her OC from xmm. People 2 wrongs don't make a right. It's for sure by her post (lynn)is one of those poeple who thinks only of herself. That's ok if she can live with herself. It sounds to me that no matter what actions she takes if fine because her uh cheated on her.

Mary,

Tread lightly. I say this in the most respectful way possible. You came here as OW looking for advice and understanding. You&#8217;re getting that, but please don&#8217;t forget where you are. Even after 3 years of being a &#8220;member&#8221;, I still have to remember that I am OW who is participating on a board intended for BS and rebuilding of their marriages. Please keep that in mind. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

OB1

(cringe)

Ouch, Mary. You're drawing a line in the sand that isn't going to win you much support.

Ohbratti asked 2 very good questions:

1. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Are you seeking help in re-building your marriage </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">and

2. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You say that you were asked to come here and read? Would it be too intrusive of me to ask you to share your story? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You shared some of your story and did say that you are long past D-day. I wish you had told us a bit more detail so that we could understand your thinking.

You also said that POJA is a good thing, then wrote:

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Don't allow some OW or your UH or anyone ever tell you to handle finances with your emotions. That is the dumbest thing you could ever do. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think some wives are afraid to vent what is really on their minds for fear of their husbands being angry. Well who cares? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think you can see how these types of statement don't quite mesh with a POJA.

I voiced the same concern as Ohbratti that you appeared from no where and without giving any history or asking for any help, proceeded to give very strong advice. I, along with others, simply gave our opinions. And since I am in a recovered marriage, I believe my views are just as valid as yours.

You seem to believe that the ONLY correct approach is yours. As Crazymum said, there are tons of different scenarios. Most of learned a long time ago that there is no "right" or "wrong" answer. Joint decisions and understandings need to be made with our spouses or, as you said, the marriage will not last.

Some of your information may indeed be useful to individuals who are like you. But your approach is not a perfect solution for everyone. I'm sorry that you feel your approach is correct and the rest of us are wrong. If that were true, I would not be three years into recovery.

You obviously have an ample income if you are successfully using the maneuvers you mentioned and your H would have had to pay more than $2,000 per month in child support. But, most of the people on this board are not so fortunate. They are not in a position to have accountants and lawyers at their daily disposal, nor are their incomes such as they could channel raises into "consulting fees". (And, if you are going to tell me THAT is legal, think again)

Regardless of whether you continue to post or not, I wish you well and hope you keep living well,
heavenly

<small>[ September 23, 2003, 03:58 PM: Message edited by: heavenlybody26 ]</small>

Needs to moveon. I knew you would be on here.

IT just kills you that a BW has the guts to come on here and say what most BW really think and do. It is killing you that today, some lurking BW is off at an attorneys office doing what is legal. You say it yourself. You are worried that your XMM and his wife will hide assets.

You are so quick to point out how illegal it is? Well, if one talks to an attorney and are in the process of a divorce and the H signs everything over to the Wife that is NOT illegal. Each state is different. I am not talking about grabbing money out of a bank and saying we don't have it anymore, we are not that stupid.

To call me what you have, really proves a point. I am a nightmare to you cause I empower the BW that have to deal with OW. Some might be timid and afraid, but you know exactly what I am talking about. You know I am dead on. That is why the OW Boards are all upset. Scared that some BW has come on here and given these women information that can change the hands of power. You keep saying it is illegal. It is not illegal. Is it illegal to claim a child on taxes? Nope. Is it illegal to claim interest on a mortgage as a tax deduction? Nope. Is it illegal to Incorporate and do private consulting? Nope. Is it illegal for a couple to file for divorce and set up the finanical arrangements through a trial separation? Nope.

As long as one hires an attorney and has this done legally.

See you OW types want it all done sneaky. I am not the sneaky one. I was guided to handle things legally. Legally means no surprises. A good attorney steered us in this direction. See, if nothing is done legally the OW can keep manipulating the situation. Either you do this or you do that or I'm going to court. Scary to think that the BW can do the same isn't it? She can force you into court to prove DNA. Many times her UH isn't the daddy afterall. If he is, then the attorney sets things in motion LEGALLY and OW loses all the cards she is trying to play.

Now I'm sure there are OW who are actually concerned about the OC and the children of the marriage who don't play games. But, read the OW boards. They are out for what they can get. The encourage others to make him "pay through the nose" they are bitter and angry and they want him to "hurt". I have read it all. They laugh in court behind XMM back. They blame everything on the BW as if she is to blame, even you mock the BW in your situation. You are hardly the pillar of morality and decency here to be saying that I am deceitful. I reacted to a situation set forth by a woman just like you.

See Mary, this is a board for BW who are rebuilding their marriages. This is not a board for OW to come and belittle any BW who choses NC with the OC. You call people names, and are rude. You try to mock me? Well, I could really care less what some OW thinks of me. I consider the source.

Once again, I am here to empower these women, what are you here for?

Lynn,

I've not gotten involved in these posts, but to me you come across more as a paid lobbyist than anything else. I think you have a valuable message, but it's not being wrapped up with what we consider "good" MB techniques. I worry that you're doing more harm than good...

People on here think I am angry and bitter cause I protect my children? Cause I don't give a damm about OW?
Wow, you really haven't read any of the responses, have you?

Separate on paper, quit claim deeds (as below),etc. They are all legal. Don't ever allow emotions to control your finances.

And how does separating and quitclaims fit in with the following?

this is a board for BW who are rebuilding their marriages.

Don't allow some OW or your UH or anyone ever tell you to handle finances with your emotions. That is the dumbest thing you could ever do.
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I believe that if an UH/WS has a problem with angry outbursts, then being afraid to vent would be a real concern...perhaps it's this reason that a POJA should be in effect...but you can't get to c without going through a then b first....just my take on things...

I personally have found these posts refreshing and I'll probably be flamed for saying so. I don't see the bitterness and anger in these posts and I've read and re-read...perhaps it's because I've done something similar...I hired an attorny, I set the motions for DNA testing as ex-ow's reputation wasn't exactly "sterling" and told her and her attorney pending the DNA she was going to get what OC needed including health benefits. We knew we were going to have to pay. Hell, I don't even HAVE assets to hide! I wish I had ASSETs to begin with!

When I counseled with Jennifer Harley, she told me while our Atty's were handling the legal aspect, and while we waited for the DNA to come through, we needed to focus on ourselves and our marriage...not OC, Not ex-ow, but ourselves. With the atty's handling the legal aspect of it, we were freed up to do just that. Our marriage stands today because of that time that was freed up instead of worrying about money/legalities etc.

I guess depending on your own personal circumstances, how the ex-ow acted in your situation and how much you have to pay or have had suffered financially due to the stupid acts of two selfish people(WS and OP) who did in fact bring an innocent child into the world(OC) and affecting other innocent children of the marriage (COM)is how we are going to read this thread...in light of our personal experience...

Like I've always said, there isn't a right or wrong way to do this...and I do feel that everyone should be protected legally...I think legally boundaries should be set...I've seen too many people suffer from people playing games...and from that aspect, it is good to have legal representation no matter WHO you are in this sick little triangle...ex-ow, WS, BS.

To quote Forrest Gump,
"That's all I have to say about that...."
Twiisty

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ohbratti1:
<strong>Mary,

Tread lightly. I say this in the most respectful way possible. You came here as OW looking for advice and understanding. You&#8217;re getting that, but please don&#8217;t forget where you are. Even after 3 years of being a &#8220;member&#8221;, I still have to remember that I am OW who is participating on a board intended for BS and rebuilding of their marriages. Please keep that in mind. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

OB1</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Ohbratti:
I know what your saying and your right! I just get so upset when I see someone who is saying all these things. I can't believe my ears. I'm just like WHAT? Most of the people here are very pleasent and have said things to help me better understand what I'm going to up against soon. But I can't believe someone would sit here and tell people to do something so wrong. She is calling me morally wrong when I've repented and done everything I could to make things right in my life? Not to mention she has not heard a word said that is even agreed with to what she is saying. I also know that heavenly, pops, full house, and I think wiz? have really been able to put there feelings aside and deal the way they have. Not everyone can do that...and I have not put anyone down for that. It's totally understandable. TOTALLY. This women has just made me think OMG!!!!!! If all bs and xmm are like this when it comes to money then I too have to protect my child's support. I don't think anyone should screw anyone over. For any reason. I may of had an affair but I know the type of person I am and I know where I come from and that means in no way that I am any less than Lynn or anyone else. In fact I'm a little to nice. My stbxh is suppose to pay me by law a certain amount of money for his kids and OUR retirement and I excuse part of what he owes me because he has a life to lead and a house to pay for. I don't want him taking my kids every other weekend and have to sit at home and watch TV cause he's paying and his bills and can't afford to take them to dinner or the carnaval or the movies. At the same time I expect him to be fair with me. I am somewhat in a different position than some here and trying to prepare myself for "there D-Day". Xmm's wife knows nothing of the A let alone of this child. I have never said anything to her or tried to call her or anything. It's not my place. I don't bother him, I don't threaten him. It's his cross to bear for I've already beared the crossed I need to. I'm just overwhelmed where she is coming off accusing me of being her OW and reacting to all the situations as the same.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by LynnG:
<strong>Needs to moveon. I knew you would be on here.

IT just kills you that a BW has the guts to come on here and say what most BW really think and do. It is killing you that today, some lurking BW is off at an attorneys office doing what is legal. You say it yourself. You are worried that your XMM and his wife will hide assets.
No, that is her choice.....as well as ow.

You are so quick to point out how illegal it is? Well, if one talks to an attorney and are in the process of a divorce and the H signs everything over to the Wife that is NOT illegal. Each state is different. I am not talking about grabbing money out of a bank and saying we don't have it anymore, we are not that stupid.
I'm am sure your not. NO one said you were. But if you can go to an attorney why is it wrong for the ow?

To call me what you have, really proves a point. I am a nightmare to you cause I empower the BW that have to deal with OW. Some might be timid and afraid, but you know exactly what I am talking about. You know I am dead on. That is why the OW Boards are all upset. Scared that some BW has come on here and given these women information that can change the hands of power.
Is this what it's about with you, power and control? YOur lucky that you are able to hire the people to hide your assest. You are a nightmare to anyone who passes your path in a way that is not your way it seems like.

You keep saying it is illegal. It is not illegal. Is it illegal to claim a child on taxes? Nope. Is it illegal to claim interest on a mortgage as a tax deduction? Nope. Is it illegal to Incorporate and do private consulting? Nope. Is it illegal for a couple to file for divorce and set up the finanical arrangements through a trial separation? Nope.

Those are laws again your looking for loopholes.

As long as one hires an attorney and has this done legally.

See you OW types want it all done sneaky. I am not the sneaky one. I was guided to handle things legally.
IF I go to an attorney why am I being sneaky?
She can force you into court to prove DNA.

Is that not to your and your uh benifit as well?

Now I'm sure there are OW who are actually concerned about the OC and the children of the marriage who don't play games. But, read the OW boards. They are out for what they can get.

Your coming across as if we ARE ALL like that.

They laugh in court behind XMM back.

Your laughing behind the ow and oc back.
They blame everything on the BW as if she is to blame, even you mock the BW in your situation.

No, I am mocking you only. Because you've only read what you want to see and read nothing more.

You are hardly the pillar of morality and decency here to be saying that I am deceitful. I reacted to a situation set forth by a woman just like you.

It sounds as if I have morals than you at this point. I'm not screwing my xmm over for money.

See Mary, this is a board for BW who are rebuilding their marriages. This is not a board for OW to come and belittle any BW who choses NC with the OC. You call people names, and are rude. You try to mock me? Well, I could really care less what some OW thinks of me. I consider the source.

NO, I have not put one bw down but you and only for trying to talk everyone into doing something that could possilby put them into more money problems than what the "so called ow has already done".

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I personally think LynnG's posts are great.

Needtomoveon, you are a piece of work. (And that's not a compliment.)

Why is it wrong for a BS to legally protect herself and her children? Her family was here FIRST!!!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by LynnG:
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Now I'm sure there are OW who are actually concerned about the OC and the children of the marriage who don't play games. But, read the OW boards. They are out for what they can get. The encourage others to make him "pay through the nose" they are bitter and angry and they want him to "hurt". I have read it all. They laugh in court behind XMM back. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You know - I am the one that laughed at xMM's back in court.**edited to add - I laughed at him because he's an [censored]. Not because he has NC (which is fine with me) but because of the kind of person he is. I've already explained myself fully here, and think that should have been the end of it. I NEVER said I wanted to make him "pay through the nose" or "hurt" or any of that. I COULD have made him "pay through the nose" but I didn't. He pays UNDER the state guidelines. Why? Because I agreed to an amount that was under the guidelines. Do I want to see him "hurt"? On occasion I think of what he'd look like with my foot firmly planted up his [censored]. Or maybe a hatchet to the skull. But would I ever DO that? No. I'm not dumb, just had a stupid moment in my life when I got mixed up with him. Thank GOD that part of my life is over with. Except for my son. That I wouldn't trade for the world.
Maybe if you actually READ some of the posts, on either board, you might realize that there is more to life than your twisted view of it. YOU are the type of person that would be a nightmare to go up against - why? Because you are out for YOU. Screw everyone else. $69/week and you'd be happy? Where the heck can you raise a kid on $69/week (or $138 if you double that with OW's contribution)? Oh. Wait. That's for xOW. Screw HER kid. That's exactly what you're talking about - you can call it what you want, but I call a spade a spade. And you, Lynn, are a piece of work.

<small>[ September 23, 2003, 07:04 PM: Message edited by: JoshMom ]</small>