JM I respect what you did today- yeah I was a lurkin... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />

I know we as the "BS" (RD for me) can really dig into some good conversation with the OW--or just get in some heated debates...

debating topics w/ow gets you fired up- and same for ow w/us... but really its dumb to ONLY reply and THINK according to titles-- this is life- we are all different and we are NOT always gona get along w/everyone- BUT- digging into another persons' point of view and picking things apart w/other humans helps us learn. It makes us DIG hard into what we feel.

Getting crazy mad and debating is GREAT- I sometimes need to be able to do that HERE, only-- and not in real life - and that helps so much- isnt sometimes that why we come HERE?! And yep, sometimes going for jugular SURE- WE DO THAT IN REAL LIFE TO ONE ANOTHER all the time-- and get over it!

Being OUTRIGHT evil and nasty and unruly w/language, etc.. is just GHETTO. I DONT do that and I DON'T kick cry about or expect anyone to not post here! I am FAIR- and I dont appreciate certain things "there" but that isnt what this is about! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

I digress.... (I need a laughing icon so bad here!! LOL!!!)

Anywooo JM and Marysway I do think both of you try to be level headed and just like--- normal to me !hahahahahaaa!!

I think its cool that you stood your ground for what is right, IMO.

I agree we ALL need our place and even criminals are human and deserve to have comfort !! geesh I get that-- but for people to just block out the REALITY of the BS and OW having some MAJOR life decisions and REAL FREEEAKING tough interactions to deal with-- it is very wise adn healthy for any OW w/OC to converse with and explore the issues together at times.

okay now goodnight! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

<small>[ January 07, 2005, 10:36 PM: Message edited by: giovanna123 ]</small>

Being OUTRIGHT evil and nasty and unruly w/language, etc.. is just GHETTO. I DONT do that and I DON'T kick out anyone here. I am FAIR- and I dont appreciate certain things "there" but that isnt what this is about!


Why do you read over there Gio? Honest question. ****edit******. I don't attack people. I can post here knowing it's not mean-spirited in the least. I don't mind "debating" with someone but not this "slam-dunk" crud that gets continually dumped on me. But I'll keep posting because I know I CAN be an advocate for doing the "right" thing. Not for me or any other adult....but for the children involved.

peace and love

ent

<small>[ January 08, 2005, 10:50 AM: Message edited by: Justuss ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I CAN be an advocate for doing the "right" thing </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">.... "for me, Entwife".. should be the end of that sentence.

Your right thing is yours. God works differently in everyone's life and in his own time. We are aware of what we are doing and have all prayed about it heavily. I take exception to the statement, but am secure in our peaceful decisionn for now. When God is workign in your life - you feel it.

And you don't get that this is the *only* problem anyone has w/you.

Why I (have tried to) post there is pretty obvious???? The reason I'd have a natural curiosity is ??? obvious??? uh... you have no idea how NOT crazy any of my posts are-- because they get deleted no matter how run of the mill or non exciting they are.

And anywooo I have one more thing to say...

Peace-- love-- AND hair grease to you, my friend

good night <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

<small>[ January 07, 2005, 10:59 PM: Message edited by: giovanna123 ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by entwifejmr:
<strong> I'll keep posting because I know I CAN be an advocate for doing the "right" thing. Not for me or any other adult....but for the children involved.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Why do you post here?! This site is about what is the right thing for the marriage! For some, it includes all the children involved, and for others it doesn't.

No offense, but the site is called Marriage Builders, not OC Builders!

(For someone who just reads here and "soaks things in," I can say that I find you really annoying!!! )

Gardenbunny- I agree- and had been editing my previous post while you were posting- if you read it, you'll see !!!

Geesh... !!! I could get mad, LOL about this!! LOL!!!!!

Must go to bed or baby is gona be irritated.. he is "waiting" for me! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> hahahahaaa

It CAN be right for the marriage. Some people may not be able to handle the guilt involved with NC. Some people may need to know that you can make it work.

ent

p.s. "hair grease"? See what I mean about "ghetto"?

Ent, you must not get out much...

You've never heard the saying of "love, peace and hair grease" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

And furthermore, I'd have to feel I did something wrong to feel guility.

NC is not mine to own- could not be possible- for any "BS" who did not lay down with a married person or was a married person who created a child.

Get it out of your head that we can be responsible for making their choice- or that God is going to punish us or judge us for staying married as he wishes, and fighting like hell to keep our children in a safe and secure environment. To make things right and stable again. To live and love again and heal. To protect the children that WE are responsible for. To be willing to endure such strange and unusual conditions out of love for our family.

Guilt? Nice try- not here.

<small>[ January 07, 2005, 11:53 PM: Message edited by: giovanna123 ]</small>

Geez...I didn't say YOU felt guilt!!

ent

Ent, NEVER... will I BELEIVE you ARE A bw. I PERSONALLY THINK YOU ARE A VERY BITTER OW IN SHEEPS CLOTHING! Go away, you do nothing productive here. You in no way contribute to the rebuilding of marriages. You go hand-in-hand with CLO. Bitter losers! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> JMHO. Abd I'm entitled.

er..... Thanks Gio. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> I did what I felt was the right thing to do. Some would say that stepping down is letting the other one "win". But not getting support from the board owner is just insurmountable, as far as I'm concerned. I think that is why a couple of the other mods will stay on - to keep some kind of balance - but I don't think it will make a difference.. I'm sorry that the debates/discussions/arguments/bytchefests can't continue - they were an integral part of me being able to move on with my life - but hey. I'm just an xOW with an OC. What would I know. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

And isn't it a little irritating... that the thread was directed to JM-- not Ent-- and she so rudely takes it over.... thread had nothing to do with her.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

ent

<small>[ January 08, 2005, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: entwifejmr ]</small>

Although I believe that question has been answered, no one has to justify or defend where they post and why.

However on THIS board the purpose and goal is Marriage Building and the SUPPORT of those attempting to do so!!

<small>[ January 08, 2005, 11:40 AM: Message edited by: entwifejmr ]</small>

Thanks for coming around Justuss...

I just dont get coming around *only* for confrontation. Hey, I don't shy away from confrontation at all-its a part of life-- but I think I at least try to come around for positive input, too.. unlike some. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

I don't come around here *only* for confrontation either. Conflict is a way of life.

ent

I beg to differ, and so would most anyone else who has been here a bit.

THIS POST WAS NOT ADDRESSE TO YOU---- WHY are STILL HERE pointing your finger and wrinkled nose at me-- (before you can get your little word in- I know this is a public board and ALL deserve to have their say-but my gosh, woman, you are not proving anything- just acting like a pest.

WHY dont you use up some energy TOWARDS HELPING ONE of the 100 recent posts from those in need of some wisdom or insight or positive support.

Geesh- talk about contact w/OC with those that have it here- that would be very valuable for a lot here! A good bit here DO have contact! And we support that!!!!! Go for it,Ent- geez that MIGHT prove helpful for a change!!!!!!!!!

I need a D*MN fly swatter for your [censored]!!!

I believe I did when I posted to mourning after.

ent

Just an FYI for anyone that likes to post over <----- there has been another mod added, and two out of the four have no use or need for any BW's posting. Maybe that's what they need now. But if you try to post, I'm sure it won't last long.. I tried to help maintain a balance, and that has now changed in a huge way. Sorry for those that go there seeking information or understanding. And I'm sure that this post will be brought up there, also. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> I have no loyalty to the board owner, I tried to help, and personally, I find it all amusing, but sad.