Well, H is very independent these days ... new bank account, distancing from DD, distancing from his parents & sister, distancing himself from me, not answering phone calls, etc. So, he's either hiding contact really well, or just still has wayward mentality.

Orchid -

In a post of yours, you talked about how you asked your H to identify himself as H or WH. Although my H is no longer a WH, he still has that mentality. I want my H home. How did you get him to do this? What did that conversation sound like?

Your H still has the WS mindset. This means he is still a Ws, just keeping his pants on....still a bad creature to have in your home.

when mine was like that, I refused to communicate with him when he acted as a WS. I call it plan A your spouse but plan B the Ws. This isn't an MB sanctioned idea. It was what I used to help me. It worked for me.

The WS can manifest itself at any given time. Even in the middle of a sentence, I have seen the Ws morph back. Scary. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

I practiced learned how to detect the WS from H. It wasn't as hard as I thought. Reverse babble helped me.

I will post more later.