Melody, you don't have to convince me about Marriage Builders.
It is about fixing problems. I don't understand what these "other problems" are that you mention. I am referring to the problems on which Dr. Harley focuses.

I must disagree with you about embarking on an exceptional marriage before you have fixed a bad marriage and have a good marriage. It is impossible. That is the nature of progress.

I see TE7PC as the vision, and HNHN as the mechanics of the details. There is no conflict between the two.