Thanks for the explanation, Retread. I agree that hold is under water along with many others here. That is why I IMPLORE them to get coaching directly from the Harleys. MARRIAGE BUILDERS can lead anyone who uses it to an exceptional marriage. With a tried and true track record. Thirty years of demonstrated success is unheard of in this business.

If you read the book we are reading now, Effective Marriage Counseling, Dr Harley outlines the problem of motivation ["creative wilderness] in his book and how they are able to motivate people out of their wilderness. They are able to do remarkable things in marriages in a short period of time that leads them out of this wilderness.

Marriage is a quality of life issue that has a domino effect on the rest of one's life. It has affected every aspect of my life, my friendships, my career, my relationships with my family. When you fix a troubled marriage, the rest of one's life falls in line. And others here can have the same thing too, if they will just USE the program. I sense sometimes that folks don't understand the gold mine they are sitting on. If they would only use it.

I would refer good folks like hold to others on this board who do have exceptional marriages because most of them have something in common: they all used Marriage Builders.

Marriage Builders is the solution.