Thanks Hold. I can see that MB and the forum have helped you with some significant things.

I had another question...you stated, "I tried to meet her ENs, but of course I failed miserably at her #1 need so my efforts along those lines were mostly wasted."

Why do you say that your efforts along those lines were mostly wasted because you didn't fulfill her #1? What of the others?

I think my understanding is that there is no shame in trying and failing, but in not trying at all. We forfeit hope when we give up, agreed? Isn't the feeling of hope better than the feeling of failure?

Sooly

"Stop yappin and make it happen."
"The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you."

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DH 46
Together for 28 years.
Married 21 years.