Originally Posted by Hilltopper1972
My wife has expressed that she is not ok with that, unless we actually do have other plans with another couple or together.

This says it all!

Openness and Honesty are high needs of your wife's! You better pay attention to that...

Originally Posted by Hilltopper1972
Is it a lie or a white lie? I don't know man,,,,,

Let me help you with this one before you end up going down a rabbit hole with no return;

It's Dishonesty!

There is no such thing as a half-truth, white lie, partial truth, etc. .......

They are all 100% LIES

When you leave out information that suits you...... It's a blatent lie!

It really is simplier than you think.

I hope that helps you get a handle on it..... wink I need the reminders too!

It used to be tough for me to understand prior to four years ago, not so much anymore.... we must keep it simple.

Recovery began 10/07;

Meeting my wife's EN's is my "thank you" that refuses to be silenced.