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FWW and I went car shopping yesterday, with zero intention of buying a vehicle. Check them out, test drive them. Chit chat in transit.

Some times, you have to get creative.

My H sells cars, and he and I both dislike people who do this. If you want to look, fine, have at it. But leave the salesguy out of it, leave him free to help people actually in the market. You and your W stole valuable time from someone who is at least supporting him/herself, most likely a spouse and children, too. I can't even begin to tell you how many "ups" my H has missed by being busied by people who do this--fake out the salesperson, pretend to be interested and serious, but really out joyriding.

They don't get paid to take joyriders on test drives. Not one cent.

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These are what you call the perils of a chosen career.

Now, while you huff and puff, what you aren't considering is this; up until I hit this last leg of schooling I upgraded my vehicle every other year, and have bought a few "run ugly" rigs for other uses.

Those salesman who I "stole valuable time" from, were rewarded with direct referrals when friends or family were in the market. Direct by-name and by-lot referrals. Often times, I am standing next to the friend or family member, and take them to the salesman personally. I have also followed good salesmen when they change dealerships.

Just my ignorant opinion, but a good salesman sells himself, and not the product, and he is rewarded with customer loyalty.


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Perils of a chosen career, eh?

Yep, putting up with timewasters on a "date night", that's definitely a peril. How about you be ethical, and plan your dates in a way that brings happiness to you AND does not harm others?


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Did you tell the salesman you were ZERO interested in buying anything?

My h said you were "typical" and changing your story.


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Originally Posted by CWMI
Did you tell the salesman you were ZERO interested in buying anything?

My h said you were "typical" and changing your story.

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Perils of a chosen career, eh?

Yep, putting up with timewasters on a "date night", that's definitely a peril. How about you be ethical, and plan your dates in a way that brings happiness to you AND does not harm others?

I'm glad that I could facilitate some conversation between you and your H.

Beyond that, I don't really care about either of your opinions or judgements.

Have a good night.




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What is wrong with you two? Bickermans I say! I don't even remember what I asked about.

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What is wrong with you two? Bickermans I say! I don't even remember what I asked about.

How's your week going so far Hill?



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What is wrong with you two? Bickermans I say! I don't even remember what I asked about.

How's your week going so far Hill?

My week is fantastic, and yours? My wife and I just got done sipping tea outside in our backyard together while the kids watched a show. We are putting them to bed and then gonna read a part of my thread between HHH and CWMI because I told her they were bickering and she laughed out loud! smile We stayed up till 1am together last night so we are pretty tired, but that was a good 5 hours which is a big time number. Thanks for changing the subject and taking this thread back from the hijackers!


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I'm sure she believes it. I cannot deny being hard-headed.


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Looks like a lot of my posts were moderated. Sorry, hill and grace.

I would simply like to discourage test driving cars that you have zero intention of buying, because of the effect on the salesperson's wallet, family, and time maintenance. Drive five hundred cars if you're buying one, but it is not nice to waste people's time when they are trying to support their families.


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Originally Posted by Hilltopper1972
My week is fantastic, and yours? My wife and I just got done sipping tea outside in our backyard together while the kids watched a show. We are putting them to bed and then gonna read a part of my thread between HHH and CWMI because I told her they were bickering and she laughed out loud! smile We stayed up till 1am together last night so we are pretty tired, but that was a good 5 hours which is a big time number. Thanks for changing the subject and taking this thread back from the hijackers!

DH is about an hour and a half away, so I'm driving down to spend tonight with him in the hotel. We need the time since we managed about 4 hours of UA time last week (and it was obvious!). We've had two major fights the past two weekends, and that's not like us. Even pre-MB we didn't fight. I've had a lot going on and if things don't get better, I think I need to call the doc for different meds.

Glad things are getting better with y'all, it's good to hear!


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Originally Posted by CWMI
Looks like a lot of my posts were moderated. Sorry, hill and grace.

I would simply like to discourage test driving cars that you have zero intention of buying, because of the effect on the salesperson's wallet, family, and time maintenance. Drive five hundred cars if you're buying one, but it is not nice to waste people's time when they are trying to support their families.


I can see the subject is a sensitive one for you, so I know where you are coming from, can't say I agree however. Are you in favor of legislation that requires potential car buyers to make a statement as to their intentions prior to taking test drives at car dealers? Should we also do that at the mall when you try on a dress? Perhaps we shouldn't date unless the intention of the date is to get married? Maybe we should ban window shopping all together. All waste people's time, but that is the beauty of the free market! I'm sure your husband hates dealing with joy riders and tire kickers all day, particularly in today's economy so again I get it, but the joy rider got to experience a ride in a car that likely is newer and cooler than what they have now. That planted the seed at the feeling of getting a new car which few would argue isn't exciting. That seed COULD lead to a return visit and a potential purchase of HHH down the road. HHH comes home with new car, picks up wifey, takes her on a hot date, leading to wild passionate SF for a week making massive LB deposits. CWMI's husband comes home with a fat commission six months down the road from a seemingly time wasting exercise, takes his wife out for a nice weekend get away leading to wild passionate SF for a week making massive LB deposits. Why? It all started because of a couple of joy riders on a Sunday Afternoon.
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My week is fantastic, and yours? My wife and I just got done sipping tea outside in our backyard together while the kids watched a show. We are putting them to bed and then gonna read a part of my thread between HHH and CWMI because I told her they were bickering and she laughed out loud! smile We stayed up till 1am together last night so we are pretty tired, but that was a good 5 hours which is a big time number. Thanks for changing the subject and taking this thread back from the hijackers!

DH is about an hour and a half away, so I'm driving down to spend tonight with him in the hotel. We need the time since we managed about 4 hours of UA time last week (and it was obvious!). We've had two major fights the past two weekends, and that's not like us. Even pre-MB we didn't fight. I've had a lot going on and if things don't get better, I think I need to call the doc for different meds.

Glad things are getting better with y'all, it's good to hear!

Wow, great story, UA is at the core of this whole thing isn't it? Not sure about you, but hotel's are kind of an aphrodisiac in my mind, hopefully you guys have some fun! I applaud you for your efforts!


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Where H is at now, joyriding is non-existent. They simply don't let you joyride in a $280,000 car.

I thought the intention of dating WAS to get married? Dating is a job interview for marriage. If you're not looking for a permanent relationship, then like I said with the test-driving: be up front about that, so if the person you are dating wants to get married someday (or the salesman wants to sell a car), they have the choice to move on to someone else who is interested in marriage (or a car). smile


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Wow, great story, UA is at the core of this whole thing isn't it? Not sure about you, but hotel's are kind of an aphrodisiac in my mind, hopefully you guys have some fun! I applaud you for your efforts!

Yes, UA is so important. We spend a lot of time together Friday - Sunday, but last week we just missed the mark on UA time. One of my biggest frustrations with him being on the road is just not getting to spend the time together I'd like to.

Hotels are more home to DH than home is, so our nights in hotels are usually spent talking too late.


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Wow, great story, UA is at the core of this whole thing isn't it? Not sure about you, but hotel's are kind of an aphrodisiac in my mind, hopefully you guys have some fun! I applaud you for your efforts!

Yes, UA is so important. We spend a lot of time together Friday - Sunday, but last week we just missed the mark on UA time. One of my biggest frustrations with him being on the road is just not getting to spend the time together I'd like to.

Hotels are more home to DH than home is, so our nights in hotels are usually spent talking too late.

Yep my wife and I notice it as well. For me I get irritable if there is no SF. My wife get irritable if FS and Admiration are not there. These EN's are hard to be met if UA time is not consistent enough. What we found in the past is that our social calendar was full of time with friends rather than with each other. Part of this was no doubt a form of protection for both of us as for the time we were with our friends we could at least "pretend" everything was perfectly fine. Now that we are trying to spend that time with each other rather than with friends things have improved quite a bit.


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Date night tonight. Very excited about that. Gross, overcast drizzly weather, not excited about that. New babysitter tonight, very excited about that as well!

Stayed home this morning rather than leaving for work right away so that wifey could go spend an hour working out in the garage. I hope she enjoyed that.

I can honestly say I haven't been writing down a while lot of LBs in my iphone over the past week. We had one moment a couple days ago that was a bit rough, but we recovered quickly and had a great night. Wifey is getting her booty kicked in Scrabble of late which is nice for me! smile



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