I hope that this does not sound like I am some crazy stalker, but I was wondering if anyone has any advice about gaining cellphone records of my WW wife's cellphone. I have the account number and would like to view the log of calls on the internet but the account is password protected and I have no way of finding it out. My WW tells me that the A is over and if I could view the phone records, this would give me better proof either way if the A is truly over or not. When the A was first discovered, I saw a log on the bill showing every call made to and from OM's house and cell number (numerous calls). I would just like to see if this has stopped. Like I said, I don't want to come out as some kind of stalker, I just want to find out if my wife is telling the truth. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I kind of hate these questions but we have all been there so,..... usually you can go to cell company website and access account, if there is a password you can change it and access account in most cases if you have the social security number, not that any of us here would ever do such a thing.....good luck....let us know ok ?

I went to the company website and since the account is not set up online, I had to try an set it up. I was doing fine until the final step when I get this message:

"You have previously requested that a Cingular Wireless Customer Care specialist set up an account passcode for your account. Please validate your account passcode to continue."

I have no way of knowing this or finding it out. I tried to call the 1-800 number and they would not give it to me, they said that my W would have to call or go to the local office and present an ID. I can't think of any other way of finding this out. Any suggestions?

I can type in as many possible passcodes as I would like, but I have no idea how many characters it is, if it is made up of numbers and letters, etc. I do not own a cellphone so I am not familiar with passcodes. If anyone could help me I would appreciate it, but it looks like I will not be able to find out the passcode without WW and obviously I can't ask her.

Once upon a time there as guy in your situation who had to deal with the same company. He called using his best falsetto voice and pretended to be the account holder who forgot her password. He had to have the actual cellphone with him, not hard since his wife sometimes misplaced it, because the company's policy is to make a confirming phone call or mailing back to the account holder. He also obtained the soc sec number of the OM from an old job application he had filled out and set up an online account in that name since it had not been done previously like his wife's. This gave him two monthly bills to monitor which he did for some time until he felt safe and was assured like he is now.
Keep me posted. I am going on vacation but will check when I get back. Hope you are sucessful.

Jack

Obtaining my wife's cell phone would be very difficult for me as we are seperated and she keeps it with her at all times. The only way that I could get it is if she leaves it in her car sometime, but this is very risky to be snooping around in her car.

You said that they have to confirm by phone call or mail. Could they do it by email? If this is the case, it might work because I am the only one that has access to our email account at the moment.

The only other way that I think I could get it is if I just tried to continuously type in possible passcodes on the internet. But to do this, I would have to know how long a passcode could be and if it is just numbers or letters as well.

Jack, do you recall how long your wife's passcode was? Please let me know. I am beginning to think that this will be an unsuccessful project.

If she has nothing to hide then asking her for the bill/statement shouldn't be a problem for her. It's only if she is hiding something that she'll not like to hand it over to you. If she's hiding something from you then you pretty much have your answer, don't you.

<small>[ August 14, 2002, 10:55 AM: Message edited by: mgm ]</small>

I have occasionally gotten ads over the internet from companies claiming they can get cell phone bills or telephone bills. It could cost a hundred bucks or so, and I don't know if these companies can deliver. Do a search on google under spy + cell phone bills or use other such words "private detective + phone bill" etc. and you will probably pull up the sites for some of these companies.

But think, if you get the bill, and you see calls, you will then have knowledge that will be difficult to explain how you have gotten it.

If you ask to see the bill, and she says no, it is most likely because she has something to hide.

Another tactic is to say to your wife- I am having a hard time believing the A is over and it's hard for me to trust you. Is there any proof you can give me to reassure me?

I agree with mgm. You are separated, so it's more difficult and risky to do this anyway.

Did she tell you the A is over, for the purpose of moving back in together? In that case, you simply make it a prerequisite that she show you itemized bills, before you move back. And she should make the future bills available for you to check.

On the other hand, did she just mention the A ended, but has expressed no intention of getting back together with you? Maybe she is hooking up with someone else now, and the logs would show that. But here's the thing - you don't have to prove it one way or the other. Just assume she is dating other guys, but then put that thought on the shelf. It only matters if and when she wants you back. While you are separated, don't worry so much about what she does, spend the time on yourself instead.

Don't recall length of password, sounds like you're out of options, if your w is using a computer you can get to you can install a keyboard recorder for under a hundred bucks.

Thank you to everyone for your advice on this subject. Its nice to get some input on this from other people in the same situation as me.

I think I will put this idea on hold for the time being. I do need to stop worrying so much about what WW is doing and concentrate on myself for a while.

Anyway, right after I posted this morning, WW called me out of the blue to go eat lunch together. It is amazing how much better my mood is now after lunch. We had a pleasant time together and she really does seem like she is coming out of her fog a little bit. (Still no committment to come back and try to work things out, though.) I guess I just have to trust what she says when she says the A is over and that she is working on herself.

Again, thanks for all of your good advice.