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Hi all- First I want to thank everyone for all their posts, I have been reading them as a guest for well over a month now, and the support I have seen given has been great.

My wife is in the military and I am a Dept of Defense contractor, and was in the military at one time. We met in college in 1993, dated for two years and were married when I graduated in 1995. We were married while I was in my basic course for the military and went to Korea for over a year. So of course we were physically separated. After being in Korea for 10 months I had an affair. The affair started with a drunken night at the clubs, but quickly escalated when she thought she was pregnant with my baby. Of course the spiral started from there and the affair continued for two months, until my chain of command found out, I was accused of adultery and asked to resign. The baby was not mine. Of course through all this I told my wife. I was delayed coming home by five months, missed our planned church wedding, and finally made it home in March of 1997.

My wife and I lived together for two months until she had to go to some military training for 6 months. I moved down to where she was after two months and we started going to counseling. The counseling wasn’t affective, we both just decided to forget about the affair and move on. Big mistake. I couldn’t answer her questions as to why, didn’t want to think about it. I was stuck in self pity and a rut for the next five years, focused on my own self esteem issues, let myself slide physically and lost track of her emotional needs. We moved to Germany, traveled had great fun as best friends , but never reconnected on that emotional level or intimate level. Sex was maybe every two weeks and she says she only did it for my sake, she never really wanted too. Since she didn’t enjoy it, I didn’t enjoy it either.

Anyways over the last five years I have done little to repair the damage that was done, only repaired myself slowly. I focused on graduate school, professional development and my job. I never picked up one book on how to recover from infidelity, never learned why it happens and never even looked at her emotional needs. Holidays are important to her, and I always disapointed her, do to my lack of listening to her, once again more focussed on myself. Since then she has created three serious EA’s with OM in the military. Each time we are apart she finds one person who satisfies her needs. She says they haven’t been PA’s and I believe her. During those I was very jealous, didn’t understand why she would have them, but that was while I was in my rut. She would get very mad at my jelousy, it was a threat to her independence.

Now I am deployed to Afghanistan until November. I left in May of this year. Within a month she developed an EA with a co-worker. He has moved to another state now, but she talks to him daily, emails all the time and I think is planning to meet him over a weekend coming up. This is the first time she has planned to see one of the OM after they were physically separated. I have a feeling she will want to see him soon.... that kills me.

She says that she tried to reconnect with me, but I was un-willing. I know I was so selfish, worried about myself, my own self esteem, she is right. I couldn’t face what I had done. I had ruined my career, my self esteem, and seriously harmed my marriage. Over the last four months I have started coming out of my rut and reading about what I did and didn’t do. She says that for five years she has not felt intimate with me, feels guilty all the time, can’t forget about the baggage. That is why when I am gone she can be free, independent, and do what she wants without feeling guilty. She says that these EA’s start on a different level and she needs them to feel good about herself. She says there was sexual chemistry, but her marriage vows kept her faithful. She flirts with them and shares more intimate secrets with them than she does with me. I am afraid the current one will develop into a full blown relationship and I will be left out…. I am just now seeing my mistakes, telling her and trying to show her, trying to meet her EN's and bring life back into our relationship. Hard from over here though......

I am no longer jealous of the EA’s, I understand that my not meeting her EN’s led her to them. We talked on Sunday about the EA’s and I told her what I had learned about them and about how they are just as bad as PA’s. She understood. But she says she is going to continue the current one because she “needs it”. I think that this EA is very serious. I told her that our marriage will not be able to recover until the EA stops, she said she knows, and might just need closure. She said that she might want to see OM for that closure, I asked her if she was planning on it. She flat out said no not right now, but what if it does happen?

I got her to fill out the EN questionnaire. I haven’t received it from her yet, but she is working on it, and I sent her mine today. I actually already have a good feeling of her EN’s and have been trying to meet them for the last 40 days. There has been no response, except to laugh at my attempts, laugh at any romantic things I try to do. It is hard being 6000 miles away. I feel like I am being compared to the OM. Any ideas on romance or EN’s from a distance? She says she wants to work on the marriage and isn’t giving up, but I don’t always get that feeling from her.

She is afraid she will never be able to get over the guilt she feels for the past, guilt about me having to change jobs to follow her military career, guilt about hurting me with the EA’s, guilt about everything. She says when she is with me she always feels bad about something. I tell her that she doesn’t need to feel guilty. I have finally started to reconcile with my own forgiveness of my self, and return to the type of person I was five years ago. I know that I can forgive her, because I am seeing that my lack of action were a major contribution to this mess.

I know this was a long post and disjointed. I have started a journal to help sort through all of this. If anybody has ever started to repair a relationship from years of pain and infidelity suffering I’d love to hear about it or any ideas. I can’t come home till November and everyday is killing me knowing that she is possibly moving farther away from me. She says it is weird to her to see me being romantic, and trying to flirt. I can understand that.

How do I get her to stop the EA? She says she needs closure. If I tell her to stop, she’ll get very upset, she is so independent, tell me I am jealous and that she doesn’t expect me to give up my friends. I'm following the advice of not educating her. She admits they are EA’s, not good for us, but doesn’t want to end it, says she needs it. It kills me to know that she might be planning to see him, without my knowing.

I have been reading the Marriage Builders site constantly looking to learn about what I have done to the marriage and how start fixing it. We both agree that the EN’s are what were primarily lacking, I can fix those, but how to fix her feelings of guilt….. I love her so much and am now realizing that I love her more than I ever thought.

Her Mom says that she wants to start a family, but realizes our marriage isn't the right environment to raise kids, as it is right now I agree with her. I too want a family. She is starting to realize that she "either needs to fish or cut bait" meaning try to work through these issues or DV and find somebody else. I am so afraid that the new EA could be that somebody else. She says he reminds her alot of me, but is more care free. Of course he is more carefree, he is single, 25 or 26 and also in the military, so he doesn't have a mortgage and all the other responsibilities of marriage.

We have been married for seven years and apart due to the military for at least three of those years.

I am trying to schedule a session w/ SH for next week. It will be just me "attending" and then I will try to get my W to schedule. With me being overseas it isn't possible for both of us to do the session at the same time.

Thanks for listening.

<small>[ August 22, 2002, 02:50 PM: Message edited by: stuck_in_the_stan ]</small>

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Hi, SinS

Great you found this site. You'll find it as helpful as I did, I hope. Also great stuff that you'll be councelling with SH.
It looks like you have found a road map, have learnt from past bad experience and are now seriously committed to making it work.

Now, your WW doesnt seem to want to play along ball. Best idea I think would be to get her interested and clued up about the psychological dimension of affairs & relationship.

Also, very importantly, make it plain and very credible that you are serious about making it work. You let her down on that point in the past - what proof has she got that this time it's different, this time you're serious?

Now, being stuck in A-stan and handling this might be a bit problematic. I would play it one ball at a time. Implore her NOT to go & see him. To give you a chance to listen what you have to say. To give you this weekend instead, during which she should read e.g. the contributions on this site.

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Nick-
Thank you for the encouragement. I have an appointment with Steve for next Tuesday. I am excited to get started.

I guess only time can prove that I am serious this time. You are right the previous times we have tried to work through this I wasn't ready, did a knee jerk reaction and then went back to my old habits. Well I am forging new habits now and only time will be able to prove how commited I am to us and her and myself.

I wish I could tell her to not see the OM, but that would only push her so much farther away. How can I let her know about EA's and stuff with out forcing the education on her? I don't want to bring up the R and the problems all the time and am working hard on developing a plan A.

Thanks!


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