After reading of the pain I caused another, on these boards, I have come to the conclusion that I need to leave here. While I believe my advice to ITD_45 was right on target, it hurts me to realize that I caused her even a little pain. Again ITD_45, I am sorry.

That being said, this has been coming for awhile now. My marriage is doing really well(still some problems, minor stuff). Without this site I would not have made it I think. But now the pain that is this site is so hard to take. And I see the frustrations, from myself, that many old timers showed to me.

I see just how hard it is for the old timers. To come here day after day trying to help in some small fashion. Thinking they are banging their heads against a brick wall. I guess I don't have what it takes. Hell my own marriage will do better by giving it this time.

At any rate, I want to say thank you to everyone who helped me during the dark days...and nights. You will always be very special to me.

I want nothing less than for everyone here to be healthy and blissfully happy. Whether or not your marriages survive.

Luck to you all.

Jerry(jdmac1)

I don't belive you were the cause of her pain. I do think insight won "in battle" has much value.

If people want easy validation, fine. For those who want something of more substance and value, your presence is needed.

Does some truth or insight come at a price? I think so.
Can we discount that price? I don't think so.

glad that things are going well with you

you will be miss & you have much to offer.

make you only know more peace & happiness

JD,

Well as we so painfully learned a long time ago, we can't control the actions of others. You know when it is your time to go or stay.

Know that you are always welcomed here. No one is asking you to leave and I for one personally enjoy reading your posts. I thought you were working on a book and I could finally say I know someone famous!!! LOL! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Besides, I wanted to co-author a chapter in that book with WAT (with your permission of course!).

Now JD, you know the thick skin that we need to have here at MB. Remember last year? How much we all stressed out the old timers? I have to remember that some of those old timers are older than me but many are younger just because they have been at MB longer doesn't mean that they need to be here forever and I needed to remember that I had to learn how to stand on my own 2 feet in order to survive.

Thank goodness, the likes of some very strong charactered persons like BR, NewBeginning, Perservering, LOR, Resillient, WAT, Rick37, Redhat, Zorweb, even SNL, Thinker, Bitsy, Dana, H2Y, [H], Knewjie, SING, Faith1, Ho1Fo0, Alberta, Topie, CALI (& her many names), STL, HopelessinAZ, etc. were strong enough to endure my tortuous story and help me. You were there for that also, remember?

Along the way a few time we had shots taken at us. I remember the OW invasion on the preg/child board and the few on d/d and JFO. Funny how they didn't want to enter the GQII realm too much!! LOL! Inbetween that there were some very very hurt BS who took some of our comments to hard and in a few instances even left. I used to feel bad that they didn't appreciate the help and the intent but that was their choice. Others started out that way but eventually learned that we were not the enemy just the messenger of reality and they were able to stay here and grow.

So JD, don't forget us when you get rich and famous ok? I am the short one from California that hails to the name Orchid!!! LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

In my heart, I hope you change your mind and stay, if not, I can respect that.

take care and best wishes to you and Sjdmac.

L.

JD,
I left u a message on page 1,but now it is probably onpage 2. I a'm soooooooooooo SORRY for what i said to u. as i posted on page 1 i said i was really sorry for what i said. and that people do make mistakes. i was just really having a terrible day that day. please forgive me. and if u are leaving on my account please don't. As i said u have been really helpfull to me as well as many outhers here. u do give GREAT advice. again please forgive me. and sorry i hurt u. Cathy ps...... I did read your post a few times and it did make a lotof since once i calmed down.

Thanks for the thoughts everyone.

ITD_45

Yes I read your post to me and accept your apology. You really did not have to apologize though. I was not upset at you for anything you said. I was more upset with myself for causing you un-necessary pain. My way of saying things can sound a little strong to some. I feared what I said could have been taken that way by you, which was why I said at the end of my post that it was not a flame.

I just need to detach a bit more from this place. At least until my recovery is a little stronger, and I am a little stronger. While I don't post a lot, I do spend a lot of time here. This time needs to be directed more toward my own marriage. Maybe I will be back sooner rather than later. But I need to take a good healthy break.

jd