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#1034264 10/18/02 09:17 AM
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Country,

I am so glad to read your message because I honestly do not know what good could come out of me telling. It is over and I have moved on with my life. I know this is probably going to sound horrible, but we have a really happy life and if I told him, I think he would be destroyed. I have thought a lot about telling and not telling and I always come to the conclusion that telling will only bring pain.

I know what people are going to say...that I am living a lie and that there is no true marriage without honesty. But every marriage is different.

Is it possible to just go on with your life and let the past stay where it is?

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May I suggest that you seek some IC on this matter?

My thoughts on this stem from the comment that you "love" both your husband and the OM. There is something inside of you that is incomplete if you are feeling this way.

Maybe telling your husband isn't the best thing to do right now . Perhaps if you explored this issue with a professional it could lead you to some understanding on why you can't let go of this issue.

I have a feeling that there are deeper things going on inside of you that are wanting to come out, and your need to tell your husband is a starting point for you to the path of finally dealing what you're not addressing. I hope I made sense.

Seek counseling first. The answer to this will come to you after.

Good luck.

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Kily,

I think you are right. Now is not the right time and I agree that I need to seek IC. I have a lot of work to do on me first I think before I jump in and make the decision to be honest with H. I need to understand a lot more about what is happening with me.

Thank you for your supportive and insightful message.

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Regret,

I think Kily's suggestion is excellent, and you have been hearing from some very good people with regard to advice. I thought I would discuss something you have said.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I am so glad to read your message because I honestly do not know what good could come out of me telling. It is over and I have moved on with my life. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well, you are not moving on with your life. You still have OM in your mind and as you said you still love him. If you are focussed enough on him to still love him, then your H is not receiving your full focus and attention. As for what good it could do, permit me to offer you some ideas.

1. Your H will know who he is married to (this is much more good than bad)

2. Your H will be allowed to make a very important decision( do I love this woman enough to forgive her, or did what she do run what I think a good marriage is). It is HIS decision not yours to make.

3. You clearly state that intimacy and affection were sorely lacking in your marriage and that is what you would really like to have. You may tell him this, but he won't appreciate the full gravity of your needs until he knows the consequences of NOT meeting them.

4. Clearly you two cannot and have not talked about your desire for more affection, intimacy, and emotional connection. You telling your H about the A will set in motion the deepest, most heart rending discussions of either of your lives. But out of that will come a new openness, a new sharing, and yes even a new respect for one another. At that point you both will find it much easier to share, communicate, help one another. THat is what is meant when you see people say here: "I don't condone the A, but because of it our marriage is much better." The A itself surely didn't make the A better, what made it better is how both parties handled it, came together and addressed their issues, and consciously made a decision to preserve the marriage and make it better.

5. Your H is the person who is supposed to be helping you through the biggest crisis of your life and your silence is cutting him out of a very major portion of his obligation as a spouse. You will find that if you continue to cut him out of this, you will find it easier to cut him out of other things. You won't tell him of other things that make you sad, because you fear getting into this issue.

I could go on, but I think you get the idea. Your H married you "for better or for worse", this is the worse. It will really hurt him to hear what you have to say, but you will very likely be surprised at his willingness to try and make the marriage work. You are cheating yourself of the opportunity to really know your H like you never have.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I know this is probably going to sound horrible, but we have a really happy life and if I told him, I think he would be destroyed. I have thought a lot about telling and not telling and I always come to the conclusion that telling will only bring pain. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Telling will bring pain, but it often does bring many rewards. Some of them I have mentioned above. The problem you don't see and cannot see is that your NOT telling is bring you pain and him pain. Most men, indeed, most betrayed spouses that post here will tell you that they sensed something was wrong with their spouse, but they didn't know what to do about it. They often felt cut off from the spouse, and many thought they were losing their minds. Certainly while the A was going on, the spoue knows something is wrong. THey can feel it even if they cannot really understand what it is.

You can bring an end to that uncertainty. Now it may be true that your H is so fragil that he could not withstand the pain, but most can and do. Most that post here would much rather know where they were failing and work to make their WS happier and in love with them again.

They cannot do that if they are constantly being lied to, and you are still lying to your H when you tell him you are fine, that you are thinking about something or other, when it is OM you are thinking about, when you hurt so bad and have such self doubt that you don't enjoy your life which means he doesn't enjoy his either.

Regret, this is a subtle business you are in now, and the obvious answers rarely work. We all know that the "radical honesty" emphasized here is counter to your gut intuition, but so is much of the approach here. Why? Because it focuses on pragmatic issues and the basic cause and effect, not on what seems to be the least painful method.

Please do some reading. REad His Needs Her Needs, get some counseling, and then seriously consider telling your H. Several people that have posted here over the last few years have found that telling the spouse in the presence of a counselor or clergyman was the most effective and supporting way to tell their spouse.

Keep posting I am sure you will get many more answer, but as you keep posting I suspect you will begin to see a variety of things clearer.

God Bless,

JL

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regret

You seem to have started some good work here. Keep it up. What I mean is in the soul searching department. You need to figure out the reasons why you have done this. It is not an easy journey. I know...I am a FWS and our stories sound pretty similar. I know how you feel. I have been there. I know it is not a pretty place.

Start with the IC. Read and read some more. There are some very good books out there. This forum is a wonderful thing and has helped me a lot.

Your journey to coming clean is just beginning. I don't mean to freighten you but this is going to be tough. You have to realize that your M is not the wonderful thing you make it out to be. Otherwise, why would you have had the A? There is some problems somewhere...find them.

And you have to tell your H. I know it sounds brutal...you don't want to hurt him. But there is absolutely no truth is the old saying of "what he doesn't know, won't hurt him". You have already hurt him. Now you have to "fix it". And you cannot do that without his help. One little piece of advice....when you sit down to talk to him about this, tell him everything (and I do mean everything) all at once. Don't drip out little pieces of information a bit at a time. This is just like having multiple D-days. Get is all over with and then get to work with him.

Pepperband is correct.....Secrets Kill. If your M stands any sort of chance, you have to tell your H the whole ugle truth.

Good Luck

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This is a link to a thread in RECOVERY that is someone who is in your shoes too. Maybe something in this thread will help you too.

I wish you well either way.

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=31;t=007991

Best wishes to you
Zoey

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Hi Regret,

We arn't here to brow beat you but to help. We have all been in your shoes. I guess after reading your posts, that your decision to not be honest with your husband really concerns me.

Be honest with him. Give him a chance and your marriage a chance. If you really love your husband and believe in this marriage like I am reading then look again at what you are doing. You really have to dig deep to see if this is really being honest and fair to your husband. When you look - what's your answer? Is it honesty or fear??? I am a BS and would have not wanted my wife to be dishonest with me. Just personal feelings I guess. Repairing starts with honesty.

How would your husband react if he finds out from someone else or from the OM? Does he look at you with the question "why didn't you tell me?"

There is another thread that may really help you. She was in the same boat you were in. Hope this helps. Keep us updated.

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=002045

<small>[ October 18, 2002, 02:08 PM: Message edited by: Worth It ]</small>

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I know the MB mantra is radical honesty but please be aware of what that entails. I think the IC is a very good suggestion. Getting this thing off your chest may be cathartic for you but there is no way of telling what it will be for your husband. I know it is encouraging to hear that people admire their spouse and love them more for coming clean but be aware this revelation will have ramifications. His life will changed forever. It may be the stepping stone to a stronger marriage but be prepared for all that BS's face. I remember hearing the truth for the first time...I remember he said my name and I knew something was wrong. He never says my name he always calls me hon...but that day he said my name...to this day I hate to hear him say my name. No good news ever followed the sound of my name from him. Anyway I agree with all of those who advise you to find honesty in your marriage...please do what you can to prepare yourself for any eventuality. It is good that you found MB because although we are all individuals and react differently to different situations there are threads of truth and wisdom in our similarities.

wishing you the best in the challenges you face

ayslyne

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I want to thank all of you for your words of wisdom and encouragement. I still have a long way to go, but I feel like I am making steps in the right direction. I will keep coming here to seek advice and hopefully I will get to the place I need to be to achieve peace and resolution.

Thanks again for everything. It's good not to feel so alone.

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regret just remember that the truth sometimes tends to come out of nowhere when you least expect it. If that happens, the chances of saving your M will be less than if you told your H the truth. Please think about it.

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Hi Regret,

Just checking in on you. How are things going?

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Worth IT,

Thanks for asking. Not good today. Weekend full of uneasy feelings and nervousness. Lots of soul searching. Lots of crying behind closed doors. In a very lonely place.

Have felt ready to tell many times and I know there is no perfect time for D-day to happen. Problem is...for us this is a VERY bad time. Serious health issues on both sides of the family and H out of work.

Feeling like all this would do is add insult to injury. Not making excuses, but recognizing that this might throw things into a tailspin for H.

Trying to find strength. Beating myself up a lot inside, but having to hold it together for family on outside because of other serious problems.

One day at a time.

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Hey Regret,

Glad you answered! I'm sorry for things not looking up for you today. It's tough to be in your shoes right now. You are right about no time being good for the D-day. I can see your hesitation. It does sound like you are ready to tell him though? Right? It sounds like you have done enough soul searching for the right answers. Only you can know when it is right to tell him. Just don't let it get too far down the road.

As weird as it all seems, "all things happen for a reason". Keep your chin up, ask for strength, keep your posting up. See if we can help you more.

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Meant to check on you too. I've been all over the site today. Sorry

You have a plate full right now. I know you will do the right thing when the time is right. In this situation the time may never be right but when you soul search some more and you feel the time is better than never. you do what you feel is best. Meanwhile. We are here for you

Zoey

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