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Just to update everyone. As I had expected WS is using this separation time to be with OM. I drove by her house this weekend and OMs car was there. I am so disappointed but not surprised. Things change so quickly. Ws and I spent Mon and Tue together. Monday she slept over so we could watch a meteor shower while sitting in the hot tub. Tuesday we went out for dinner. WS said Om called her on Thursday. Funny because before Thursday we would talk daily. After Thursday no call from WS. All it takes is 1 phone call and everything changes. Ws says she doesn’t know what to say to me or OM. Oh what a dilemma. I guess IM supposed to be sorry for her that she can’t decide who to be with. I know thats an LB but does that realy matter at this point? Ws brought over Divorce forms to get things underway.
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I'm sorry for that Mr Funk <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> It's time to let her go and lay in the bed she made. Don't let her guilt trips or attempts at placing blame on you change your course. She knows darn she should be spending this time working on herself and her issues, and chose instead to play fence sitter once again...making sure both choices are still there until she feels like making a decision. It's a sick, childish game. Give her the divorce and move on with your life with integrity. Good luck.
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Mr. Funk:
Wow! And I mean that in a very sympathetic way, if you know what that means. I will have 2 say that I am personally very disappointed in Mrs. Funk for this latest development, if it's happened the way you say it has. Mrs. Funk, I hope you are reading this... ...this is your oppor2nity 2 offer YOUR story, if you wish.
Having said that, and heard this news, I will say that it reminds me of my own sitch. Still no "NC" agreement, but the difference here is that my W and I are still 2gether. MOST of the time is good, but there are times when I wonder what's on her mind, or what she might decide 2 do. I think my advantage is that WE talk and are 2gether daily (her family, 2), and so the growing 2gether continues (and the growing apart from RM also continues). I expect upsets 2 continue, and I have my limits even now...
You obviously have your limits, and you're having your share of upsets. At some point you'll have had enough. Your call, entirely. Meaning, if Mrs. Funk is at all inclined 2 "come around", she'd better be watching the clock. You might not be "around" when/if she finally does.
Mrs. Funk: I may be "disappointed" but I'm just a guy on the 4um. I'm nobody. This is YOUR life. Do with it what you think is right. But don't futz around with losers 2long.
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Oh, and another thing, Mr. Funk. I just re-read your subject title...
STOP EXPECTING, you'll only disappoint yourself!
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H4F & 2Long...
I'm sorry to disappoint. I know 2Long had much faith in me, and so did I. I have been in my own place since Nov 1, and I have been working on me.
I am not making excuses for myself. H was not very supportive of the fact that I was working on me as opposed to our M. He was intrusive, etc., and we posted about that. After reading some suggestions about dating, etc., we decided to try it out. H's attitude had changed, but I could tell it was more of a "forced" change, like it was killing him not to be intrusive or ask alot of questions. I told my therapist that his actions had changed from being controlling to basically the opposite, in what seemed like overnight. She told me to be very cautious of this because I was still dealing with the same person. So I was.
The last week I was in contact with H was enjoyable for me for the most part, but only because I had kept things at a "friendly" level. If there was any chance I saw it becoming more of an intimate nature, I'd freeze up, get anxious, and not want any part of it. I think I've been holding onto him out of fear of the unknown. I'm holding onto what our relationship USED to be. It's not like that anymore. He's still my best friend, and that's who I called when I was at my lowest point. He thinks i used him, and I guess I did. But I wasn't being totally selfish...I had the best intentions for us. I just wanted to be able to work on me first.
Conversations of Thanksgiving and Xmas kept coming up, and I had romantic thoughts of how this would be. But I know that my thoughts and reality are two different things. Whenever we had planned to be together for something (meteor shower, dinner, etc) my expectations and the way I actually felt while there were very different.
Thursday, OM did call me. I was caught offguard because I truly thought it was over. I thought I was strong enough to say "screw off". But the conversation wasn't about us starting things up again, or him being sorry. It was basically a catching-up kind of call. My attitude towards him was very unemotional and has been. I think the meds have made my head clearer, but not clear enough that I can say I know what I'm doing here. It all happened so quickly, and I have really no idea what to say to either of them.
As for H, I have no choice in the matter anymore. He wanted me to bring over D papers ASAP, so I did. He asked me if I had anything to say, and I told him I didn't because he'd just have nasty comments in return. He said he wouldn't, and would listen. I didn't have a response. He then proceeded to tell me he hopes I'm happy with OM and maybe we can both share the same medication (he's on anti-deps too.) Now all of sudden I'm the whacked-out loony bin of a wife. Before, he was all for me getting on the meds. Now I know how he really feels. I didn't let it rattle me (another great benefit of the meds...I don't lose my temper anymore).
So, again...I commit to no one here. I am still working on me. I told H I'd probably lose him in the process, and I was right. I just didn't think it would be this way. I let him (and all of you) down again. And I'm sorry for that.
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Mrs Funk:
"I'm sorry to disappoint. I know 2Long had much faith in me, and so did I. I have been in my own place since Nov 1, and I have been working on me."
Don't forget, this isn't about disappointing ME, it's about YOUR LIFE.
"I am not making excuses for myself. H was not very supportive of the fact that I was working on me as opposed to our M. He was intrusive, etc., and we posted about that."
I agree that he may be intrusive, and that's wrong, but it's also understandable. Try 2 exercise a little compassion here. But do stay by yourself and work on yourself for now.
"After reading some suggestions about dating, etc., we decided to try it out."
I assume you mean dating each other, not other people, right?
"H's attitude had changed, but I could tell it was more of a "forced" change, like it was killing him not to be intrusive or ask alot of questions."
It may be. He needs 2 work on this and STOP IT, if that's the case.
"Conversations of Thanksgiving and Xmas kept coming up, and I had romantic thoughts of how this would be. But I know that my thoughts and reality are two different things. Whenever we had planned to be together for something (meteor shower, dinner, etc) my expectations and the way I actually felt while there were very different."
You're still trying 2 find your footing. Understandable. But OM is a distraction you don't need:
"Thursday, OM did call me. I was caught offguard because I truly thought it was over."
Do you have caller ID? If you do, you shouldn't have answered the phone. If you don't, you should have said "don't call me again," and hung up. Who's being intrusive now? OM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />
"I thought I was strong enough to say "screw off". But the conversation wasn't about us starting things up again, or him being sorry. It was basically a catching-up kind of call."
Hor$e$h!+!! You shouldn't have had a "conversation" at all with him. Even if you and the Mr break up, YOUR R WITH OM WAS A LIE. It can never be worth continuing. And as for catching up? OM has no business asking you how you're doing, sorry. "My attitude towards him was very unemotional and has been."
Not nearly enough 2 help you hang up on him, apparently.
"I think the meds have made my head clearer, but not clear enough that I can say I know what I'm doing here."
I think that's clear.
"It all happened so quickly, and I have really no idea what to say to either of them."
Well, as for making decisions, you need 2 decide whether you and the Mr have a fu2ure. That's it. As for OM, like I said, if you decide 2 have HIM in your fu2ure, good luck, you'll need it. You'll be involved with a liar and a cheat, and continuing a R that required YOU 2 be a liar and a cheat. Not a pretty picture, but the truth, nonetheless.
"As for H, I have no choice in the matter anymore."
Yes you do. You always have.
"He wanted me to bring over D papers ASAP, so I did. He asked me if I had anything to say, and I told him I didn't because he'd just have nasty comments in return."
Do what YOU think is right, including NOT doing what your H says just because he tells you 2. And, the "nasty comments" remark was a LB. End of discussion. "He said he wouldn't, and would listen. I didn't have a response. He then proceeded to tell me he hopes I'm happy with OM and maybe we can both share the same medication (he's on anti-deps too.)"
That was a LB on the Mr's part. Shame!
"Now all of sudden I'm the whacked-out loony bin of a wife."
Well, in a very real sense, you ARE, but him pointing that out wasn't very supportive, was it?
"Before, he was all for me getting on the meds. Now I know how he really feels."
I don't think you do. He reacted with anger. That tells you he's hurt and angry, not that what he said is how he feels. You both need 2 learn the difference.
"I didn't let it rattle me (another great benefit of the meds...I don't lose my temper anymore)."
Good for you.
"So, again...I commit to no one here. I am still working on me."
Good for you, but in the process of "commiting 2 noone", you should "commit 2 ending ALL contact with your OM." This is just as much for YOU as for Mr. Funk. "I told H I'd probably lose him in the process, and I was right."
What do you mean? Did he sign DV papers? Even if he did, it ain't over yet.
"I just didn't think it would be this way. I let him (and all of you) down again. And I'm sorry for that."
I'll say it again: This is not about US or disappointing US. This is your LIFE and what you want it 2 be. How YOU want 2 be able 2 look back on your performance now and how you'll feel about what you have/haven't done.
all my best,
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You shouldn't have talked to him, let alone allowed him to come over...period. It's certainly your life, your choice...but so is allowing your husband to move on without keeping him hoping and hanging. His actions and reactions have been far from great, but you haven't helped that at all. You don't "work on yourself" while allowing the OM in your life. That's not by yourself.
2long is right...it's got nothing to do with dissapointing any of us...we're just sad for both of you. You're letting yourself down. Good luck to both of you.
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Mrs Funk:
And if you HAVEN'T yet done so, PLEASE READ H4F's SIG LINE, then look up her story!!!
She almost LOST her M, and she's one of the smartest gals on this 4um for what she's done! You can learn a lot from her, and maybe save your M in the process!
Take care,
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Dear Mrs. Funk: Please don't think this remark is snotty but the bottom of your signature line gives off a different feeling than your posts. Which one is right?
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Mrs. Funk - I was preparing to jump all over your husband for being impatient and demanding UNTIL I read your reply about your continued contact with that pond skum.
You ARE a whacked-out looney bin of a wife.
I do not agree with all of Mr. Funk's actions, but your refusal to dump OM, ONCE AND FOR ALL, makes Mr. Funk's discretions PALE in comparison.
Once you do this, I will be on Mr. Funk's butt to do things better. Git it?
Mrs. Funk - if you cannot cease ALL contact with Mr. Skum, file for divorce so Mr. Funk can go on with his life without having to carry the burden of being the one to file.
Mr. Funk - do NOT ask for a divorce unless you want one.
Now, both of you get on and stay on the meds.
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Mrs. Funk:
What WAT said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Darn tootin!
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Just where did I put that psychiatrist hat of mine???? Oh, there it is ... >let me put it on< .... now I can spout my nonsense.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
Mrs. Funk .... YOU want to force a divorce. Taking the path of a true passive aggressive, you sabotaged the reconciliation by acting out in ways that will encourage Mr. Funk to file, because you lack courage and conviction. THIS WAY ... you get to be the "I have no choice in the matter anymore" victim ..... WAIT A DARN MINUTE SISTER .... you made the choice ... and I ain't fooled one little bit.
This IS what you want ... just admit it. Save the slow torture .... save the drama .... lets just be honest.
"I tried to save my marriage. <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" /> Mr. Funk was so controling. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> Mr. Funk filed for divorce. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> "
"I was not strong enough" .... so??? This means what??? You'll be chosing controling men for the rest of your life!!! Re-cycle one man who controls you for another????
Look up "passive agressive" on the web.... or on Amazon. This is a fork in the road for you .... "I was not strong enough" is a little child's excuse. I thought you were a woman .... Are you interested in growing up now? or are you going to delay it a bit more?
Sooner or later .... this will get old.
Pepper <small>[ November 25, 2002, 07:46 PM: Message edited by: Pepperband ]</small>
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