and what husbands don't tell!! I will tell this in as straight forward, clinical manner as can be without leaving out what YOU NEED TO KNOW. Some men here may run to the aid of their fellow man and dispute this claim. Ah, but how foolish it is to believe them.

There are different types of strip bars within your city limits/or outer limits.

Swimsuit Bar : Swimsuits, just as it says.

The women are usually performing the moves of a gymnist for sexual display purposes.

Can be alcohol or not.

Pastie Bar : The dancers wear pasties (usually A covering over just their nipples (CAN BE SCOTCH TAPE OR SARAN WRAP unless otherwise stated by law)and g-strings.

Table dancing usually - may have minimal lap.

Can be alcohol or not.

These dancers usually perform the moves of a gymnist for sexual display purposes.

Provides lap dancing, but usually the man cannot touch the dancer and sits on his hands.

Topless Bar : These dancers dance without any clothing on the breast/nipple area and in g-strings.

These dancers usually perform the moves of a gymnist for sexual display purposes. Provides lap dancing but usually the man cannot touch the dancer and sits on his hands.

Can be alcohol or not.

Nude Bar: These dancers are completely nude on stage within three feet of customer.

These dancers usually perform the moves of a gymnist for sexual display purposes. They "spread" and rub their sexual organ for him within inches of the his face. They wrap their labia around the dancing pole and other gross stuff like this.

Provides lap dancing and it is usually FULL CONTACT TOUCHING (BOTH WAYS). The man is not allowed to touch anywhere her g-string is (that is not saying much), but depending on the dancer he can get a quick stroke or two. The man can have full rein to fondle, and kiss her breasts and nipples until his heart's content (or his money runs out). The woman grabs her breast and presses her nipples on his MOUTH, against his eyes, in his ears, up his nose! He can also caress her buttocks, inner and outer thighs, back, hair, face, arms and legs. She can rubs her g-string covered private southern parts (they call it something like a "003") on his MOUTH!! This type of contact may involve her kissing his lips or vice-versa depending on the dancer and the patron's willingness to comply.

Alcohol is usually not served (some allow it) and it is called a "juice bar."

I hope the moderator doesn't delete this because I did not know this went on. I, too, thought a strip bar was no big deal. I did not hesitate to "tell it like it is" because there are other women like me who discovered their husband's going to this type of bar and thought it was just boys being boys. Until, I saw an extremely red spot where my husband was rubbed raw from lap dancing. Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Ladies, we are all adults here and that is why I "told." Don't be fooled by lies your husband tells when he says is was boring, nothing happened, I yawned the whole time, or "Jack" wanted to go. Bull. All bull.

Heretotellyou,
Thanks for writing this. Men try to get away with this and it is disgusting. Unfortunately, it is even worse than you stated. Many of the stripper will do sexual favors for money(from oral to full sex) with the patrons in a dark corner, the dark vip room, fantasy booths or out in the parking lot. The terms for these sexual favors are called "extras." There are actually websites that name what stripper will do what and how much they cost. Pretty scary!

HTTY,

Yes, you are right - all of the above can and does happen at those types of bars. I've actually gone to these bars with my husband in the past & seen for myself.

Usually there are no touching rules/laws - but as I said anything can/does happen. CSue

It really is sickening. I never knew this stuff until I was told by my husband's buddy who we are both friends with. My husband swears not to do it again, but I never knew this stuff went on. How are women to know this stuff unless other women tell them? I wish someone had told me.

Eight years ago, I bartended in a show club, and I thought the same thing, nothing really happens, blah, blah. Well, I was in for a very rude awakening. It is basically out and out prostitution going rampant. Those "women" do everything and anything for money. I seen it all. When some woman says "I don't mind that he goes, they can't touch", I absolutely set her straight. They touch, they go off to back rooms, yes, they do have them, they all do. Most of the "women" are on drugs and just plain dirty. They don't bathe for a couple of days, etc.

Any way, I quit after a month, I just couldn't stand it anymore, It made me ill to my stomach.

By the way, I worked in a little club and didn't have to wear a "uniform". I wore my own clothes and kept everything covered up. I love bartending and it is a safe place because no one can come behind the bar. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Just want to say, OHMYGOD, just because they say the dont doesnt mean they dont, i saw a VIP, just say it protitution, without intercourse., I WAS .... It is definitly a no go

I'm sure that this will come as no suprise to people who know me here, but I used to dance. Yes JUST dance, but dance at one of THOSE kinds of places.

On my first day of work I got the "rule book". It was 3 hand written pages, front and back and the first rule was "you MUST bathe before each shift." There were specific restricitons for how much hair would could have and where. It went on and on in varying degress of grossness.

The uniform was t-bar and pasties. We were required by law to cover our areola, usually we used sheer bandaids. Dancers are independant contractors and pay the bar (called a tip out) each night for the priviledge of working there. The rules stated that you may be touched from hip to hip in the front and that's it.

The majority of money is made from what happens off the floor. You may dance and hustle drinks. A guy can walk to the bar and pay $6 for a drink or buy it from a dancer at whatever price she choose to charge.

Bottom line, it's all about making money. Men go to these places for eye candy and an ego boost. Women work there for the cash, and believe me when I tell you most do well.

Oh and about the sex, yes there's plenty of it and plenty of willing participants on both sides. That was never my bag. I was a college student and quickly lost interest in shaking my money maker for unwashed manual laborers. Guess I was too much of a snob.

IMHO, if you trust your husband they there's nothing to worry about. He can go, have fun and bring his excitement home. If you don't trust your husband, or if he's a sex addict the temptation just might be too great.

Personally my partner and I go together, have fun looking and then come home.